Glock problems.

[psychophipps]

Sounds to me like you have a bad pistol. Bummer! :banghead:

Send it back to Glock with a copy/paste of your post above so they know what's going on and what you've already tried to fix it and they'll get 'er good to go for you...
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )

 

[fastbolt]

Okay, by this time, if it were me, and I hadn't seen anything out of the ordinary as a Glock armorer ... I'd arrange to have the G27 returned to Glock with a detailed letter explaining your experiences.

Over on another forum where these pistols are favored, there have been some few folks complaining about some similar G27 feeding issues occasionally. While speculation is just that ... speculation ... and I don't recall anybody ever really coming up with a clear explanation in those instances. Some of them simply got rid of the problematic G27, according to their posts.

A properly clean and lubricated pistol ought to reasonably function. The odds of all three stock magazines being problematic are less likely than it being something with the pistol itself, if the feeding malfunctioning is equally spread across the three stock magazines.

Did the rental G27 seem to be easier when it came to manually cycling the slide, and loading the magazines? The reason I ask is that 500 rounds isn't all that many rounds to have fired ... it's only a case of ammunition. I've fired a case of ammunition through one of my Glocks in a single range session. I wouldn't be all that surprised if a borderline grip stability condition (I dislike "limp-wristing" as a general term) were more likely to manifest with a newer pistol with strong springs, rather than in a well used (rental) pistol with well-used springs.

Nose-dive feeding may be caused by pinched lips, and live-round 'stove pipes' may be caused by lips which have been slightly spread (sometimes caused by trying to load too many rounds in a Glock magazine). If both are happening at the same time, I'd be inclined to suspect a problem with the geometry of the pistol's parts (barrel & locking block) during shooting/functioning, rather than the magazines, and I'd return the pistol to Glock for examination.

It's not uncommon for the 9-round magazines to only easily accept 8 rounds for a while. Mine were all like that until I'd been shooting them for a while, too.

All four rail tabs are present and normal looking, right? I know a Glock armorer for another local agency who encountered a F-series G22 which experienced a left/rear broken frame rail a few months after the pistol had been received and put into service, and it exhibited a puzzling range of various functioning problems until he finally noticed the frame rail tab had broken of the frame. Things happen.

It would be a bit helpful if you were to have someone more experienced with Glocks, especially the subcompacts, try your pistol. How about someone at the range where you rented the G27? Don't they have a Glock armorer (if they're a retail store, as well), or at least someone who shoots them fairly frequently?

 

[andrew17]

Fix, call Brownells and order a pack of wolff extra power magazine springs. The +10% ones. They're the same as the extra power springs that fit the model g19.


The 9-round magazines hold 8, but I can jam another one in there if I put my weight on the magazine while pushing it down onto a cartridge and slide the magazine over onto it. With the +1 extension that magazine holds 9 comfortably. The 22 mag holds 14 easily and the 15th goes in with difficulty. I am fairly certain that they do not require extra power magazine springs.

The reason I say this is, I went through SIX factory fresh mags for my 27, each one of them was just as you said, Very tough to load that 9th round.
I Installed the extra power springs and tadah, no more nose-up slash nose down jams. But, I digress.

 

[the naked prophet]

Anybody know of a certified Glock armorer in central MO? St. Louis is too far to drive to drop it off, as is Springfield and KC is waaaaaay too far. However, I do visit both St. Louis and Springfield about once a month. I don't really have any idea how to find a Glock armorer/gunsmith.

 

[iShootStraight]

Mail it to the nearest one. Call and arrange it first, and include a list of the problems.

 

[orionengnr]

maybe check on Glock Talk

to find a Glock Armorer? Or check your local PD?
Most Gun Shows in my area, at least one (maybe two) show up--no shipping cost, and you get an assessment right then and there.

 

[Serendipity]

Just looked back in on this thread. Read all the posts, paying close attention to the long and detailed post by the threadstarter. Problem is pretty simple. Limpwristing.

As previously stated, the Kel-Tec experience is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that relatively novice shooters experience the same problems with every mag and with several different ammo choices would lead me to logically conclude (combined with my extensive experience with Glocks and other handguns) that there's nothing wrong with the G27. Limpwristing; just as simple as that.

 

[CSA 357]

i had a smith 9 mm once that would shoot all day, never hang, unless you shot it left handed!?*csa*

 

[f4t9r]

It worked before and now it does not.
Does it work for others ? if not SEND IT BACK !!!!!!!

 

[the naked prophet]

Just looked back in on this thread. Read all the posts, paying close attention to the long and detailed post by the threadstarter. Problem is pretty simple. Limpwristing.

As previously stated, the Kel-Tec experience is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that relatively novice shooters experience the same problems with every mag and with several different ammo choices would lead me to logically conclude (combined with my extensive experience with Glocks and other handguns) that there's nothing wrong with the G27. Limpwristing; just as simple as that.

I would just like to point out that neither of us are novice shooters. Between my wife and I, we own nearly two dozen handguns and half that many rifles. We go through approximately 500 rounds of centerfire ammunition each month (about half .40 S&W and half rifle calibers), and .22 on top of that. I realize that many here consider that a small collection, and go through that many rounds each week, but novices we are not.

This was our first Glock, not our first pistol. I compared my experience with the P11 because that gun is the one that I would expect to be most sensitive to limpwristing of the semiautomatics that we own. We have both fired a rented Glock 27, Glock 26, and Glock 23 at the range where she decided on the 27. Neither of us had any problems with the range rentals.

I'm not saying it can't be limpwristing - but if the Glock (a new Glock that is working perfectly) is that very sensitive to limpwristing, I don't think I want my wife to have one. I guess she'll just have to carry her much more reliable Kel-Tec.

It worked before and now it does not.
Does it work for others ? if not SEND IT BACK !!!!!!!

It has not worked since I took it out of the box. It did not work before. I am in the process of getting experienced Glock shooters to try it out. If a long-time Glocker can't get it to work, I'll send it back or at least have a Glock armorer take a look at it.

 

[middy]

My G26 is not at all sensitive to limp-wristing. I can't get it to jam even trying to limp-wrist.

I think you got a lemon. I would send it to Glock in Smyrna, GA.

 

[thales]

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FWIW, I cannot get a "limpwrist" induced malfunction in my Glock 20 for nothin'. I can't make it happen, no matter how loosely and limply I hold the pistol. Never had a single feeding, extracting, or ejecting malfunction.

It sounds to me like you have a bum pistol. Maybe the magazines are not seating to the proper depth. I'd send it back.


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