Gun Rights are Civil Rights

[swinokur]

We were discussing gun control in our country. What is the point in giving us your history lesson on Franco and English history?

The thread title is gun rights are civil rights. The rational assumption would be US civil rights, not European.Who said anything about gun rights in France and England?

Suggestion: You should start a thread that addresses your position.

 

[DammitBoy]

We were discussing gun control in our country. What is the point in giving us your history lesson on Franco and English history?

The thread title is gun rights are civil rights. The rational assumption would be US civil rights, not European.Who said anything about gun rights in France and England?

Suggestion: You should start a thread that addresses your position.

You are aware that English history and American history are the same thing at the time of the american revolution, right?

He's saying, here in America, before we were americans, the british tried to take away our guns. You might want to try reading a history book instead of the internet so much.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Your point is, what? You failed history/civics?

No, my point is you failed history and civics.

You have conflated what foreign nations did with a unique American situation.

The common thread, however, is those forign nations instituted gun control as a means of controlling and opressing the "lower classes."

 

[DammitBoy]

 

[premier1]

One of my favorites is when the ant-gun politicians says " i'm not out to take the hunters and sportsmens guns from them" In case you haven't noticed the second amendment is about keeping an unjust, and unfair government in check.

 

[HBrebel]

merlinfire is correct. weapons control has been around ever since one person or persons decided that they were above another. In order to protect their reign, the lower class must be not allowed to arm themselves. Can anybody honestly say that "assault weapons" are banned or regulated due to gang violence or bank robbers? It's about us not having the capability to fight back against the ruling class and their armies. If our current elected president had his way, we would only have .22 cal guns or single shot hunting rifles with a limit on caliber. Rights are not given to us by the government, we are born with them and must fight to keep them or have them slowly taken from us. Although I do not consider myself an anarchist, I do not recognize authority. No human being has the authority to control my actions or my thoughts. I am born into this life a free being. I do believe in wrong and right but man made laws are only meant to control, to force the will of the elite on the masses. This may not be the high road attitude but it is my attitude. Tasco74, I agree 100%

 

[Owen Sparks]

Thomas Jefferson said:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others."

Simply owning something like a handgun in no way infringes on the rights of others to live their lives as they see fit. Threatening someone with a firearm is and should be a crime. But just having a holstered pistol is not the same as brandishing it just as having a right hand is not the same as balling up your fist, cocking it back and threatening to punch someone. Gun laws presume criminal intent based only on potential. Most people with hands don't punch people, Most men with d!@#'s don't rape women and most people who own guns don't murder people. In any other facit of the law mere potential is not enough to convict someone of a crime. Crime is an action not a tool.