I Hate ATVs

[Decker]

gotta really watch that misuse of women, more dangerous than a gun IMO.

How come we dont have a husbands safety course available anyhow?

Yall married hunters know what im talkin about, one of them wife wimmens go off half cocked and ya got better odds of surviving a fight with a sow griz with a toothache and 4 cubs locked in yer truck.

 

[Lonestar.45]

While I'm generally envious of other states that have tons of public hunting lands, this is one reason why I like Texas.

My private deer lease here in Texas has no ATV's, crowds, or noise, because me and my buddy are the only one allowed in to hunt!

 

[cchurchi]

I legally ride my dirtbike in areas that are open to hunting. Some hunters are real jerks that think that I shouldn't be allowed to enjoy my sport just because hunting season has opened.

I guess the poor crybabies will just have to learn to share. Two years ago, a hunter jumped out into the trail in front of my friend and pointed his rifle at him, screaming the whole time. My friend was able to calm him down and get away. Unfortunately, the sheriff and other law enforcement officers were unable to catch the dirtbag.

Parks and Rec has passed a rule locally, banning the use of ATV's while hunting. However, anyone can still ride one for fun - GASP! - even durring precious hunting season.

An intelligent hunter will use this to his advantage, or hunt elsewhere, rather then try to ban someones hobby - that's what I do....

 

[Mauserguy]

Here are a few thoughts on a couple of the points noted by the respondents:

1. Californians are obnoxious. I can certainly understand that other folks don't like us, but having said that, my buddy is a Utahn, and my family were original pioneers, or Saints as they liked to call themselves. Additionally, I think that we behaved well in the woods. We picked up our trash and never had harsh words with any locals.By the way, the license plates on the ATV carriers parked all over were from all of the western states.

2. In scouting we did observe numerous ATV tracks. We should have anticipated bad circus like behavior. I'll never go there again!

3. I am not proposing that we ban ATVs. If you enjoy ATVing, great, I have no problem with you. My problem is with the hundreds of hunters who seem to think that zipping up and down the side of a mountain constitutes hunting. Furthermore, I don't belive many, or any, of the people on the ATVs out there were there solely for the ATV. The perponderance were nominal hunters.

4. We did observe deer, but it was way past shooting hours. My conclusion, and I think it is fair, is that all of the noise and comotion made them hunker down, possibly near the highway where you can't hunt. All of the noise and commotion made me nervous. I can only immagine what a wild animal would experience.

5. The guy who hunted for a week and never got a deer said that he saw lots of deer, but never got a shot. I don't think that he considered that the deer may have heard him coming and skidadled leaving him only fleeting glimpses of animals. I don't think he ever considered the possibility of waiting patiently near a water source and deer trail.

6. People think that activity is good (like Obama thinks change is good), but some activity, and some change, is bad. Sometimes patience has advantages over neurotic activity.

Mauserguy

 

[AKCOP]

I can't say I like ATV's. I know they have their place and I know if used responsibly they are not a problem. However I would much rather see people
walking. I hunted Kodiak in the 70's having some great hunts in areas that were relatively close to town. Returning for a hunt in 1999 I was amazed and saddened as I flew over once remote pristine areas ruined forever with ATV trails. I have hunted MN the last few years and while they supposedly have rules about when ATVs can be used during hunting hours it is abused terribly.
I live in a county that has had several votes against the creation of trails for ATV's. The surrounding counties have ATV trails and the examples of abuse are numerous both on designated trails and off. I do not know what the answer is,
enforcement will help but the ATV clubs don't seem to be so supportive of that. Most DNR and Sheriff agencies do not have the manpower to be effective.
I guess until our society becomes more of a personal responsibility society
it will not change and frankly I don't see that change coming any time soon.

 

[Harve Curry]

I don't own one. To noisey. It seems now you cannot go hunting if you don't have a ATV. Used to be all you needed was a rifle and maybe a 4 wd PU. I just came back from a elk hunt and the elk couldn't water or would leave the water area because of all the noise of the atv's driving in 1 hour before sun up.

 

[Art Eatman]

"I can't say I like ATV's. I know they have their place and I know if used responsibly they are not a problem."

"I can't say I like guns. I know they have their place and I know if used responsibly they are not a problem."

Which takes us back to, "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." Don't we shooters holler that folks shouldn't whine about "things", but look at the behavior of those misusing things?

cchurchi, consider this: My mule deer season is sixteen days. That means that I get sixteen days out of 365 to hunt. Is it really too much to ask that ATV-folks and Bike-folks be satisfied with the other 349 days, and at least leave me sixteen?

 

[Matt-J2]

Ignore now. Never post when tired and cranky. Sorry.

 

[BoilerUP]

My family as a 105 acre farm. The house is in the very back of the property; my stand is near the very front over a half mile away by gravel road & ATV trails.

I park typically my truck at the house the night before and ride an ATV or Gator (no faster than 10-15mph) to within about 400yd of my stand in the morning. I walk the rest of the way down a trail into the stand. If I harvest a deer, I'll dress it then get the ATV to bring it out and take it to the hanging rack where we'll skin and quarter it near the house and barn.

Many times see more deer on the ATV than I do in the stand; they are used to the "noise" and aren't afraid of them like they are trucks or people walking.

I certainly sympathize with those whose hunts have been ruined by jackasses on ATVs, but they aren't the great full-time wildlife tormentor that many make them out to be.

 

[Harve Curry]

"My mule deer season is sixteen days. That means that I get sixteen days out of 365 to hunt."
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That ain't right. NM is 5 days, is all I get deer or elk.

 

[35 Whelen]

I agree. I've grown to hate ATV's. Here in North Texas this time of year, legions of "King Ranch" Ford pickups from the DFW metroplex roar northbound on 287 with trailers full of 4-wheelers on their way to Colorado for deer and elk season. Can any of you imagine what the anti's must think when they see an ATV on a flatbed trailer with an elk rack tied to it? Even if they're used legally, I'm sure the bunny-huggers envision hunters on ATV's running game down.
cchurchi, you're darned lucky you didn't at least wind up with a hole in the engine block of your murdercycle, or getting your butt whipped. What you describe doing is beyond inconsiderate especially coming from a supposed hunter. Is there some reason you can't ride your bike somewhere away from hunting areas during the season? And you call the irate hunter the "dirtbag'?
I own an ATV, but it never leaves my property. And if I shoot a deer on the back of my place, I drag it to the road, then load it on the ATV. I believe that if ATV's are treated as small vehicles, meaning they're kept on roads and legally established trials, they're OK.
What saddens me is what ATV riding hunters miss while speeding through the woods on these things. And please, don't tell me the game has gotten used to them. Maybe a few does and yearling bucks, but the bulk of the game is not going to stand by and watch a loud, smelly 4- wheeler go by.
If ATV's have such a prominent place in hunting, then how did generations before us get by without them? They got off their butts and walked....that's how.
35W