More Americans abducted along Mexico border than in Iraq

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More Americans abducted along Mexico border than in Iraq
By Maxim Kniazkov, Special to Insight
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/laredo_0.htm


It is late Sunday morning, and streets in Nuevo Laredo's commercial district remain eerily empty. As many as 176 people were killed in the city last year amid a turf war between drug cartels. (Photo by Maxim Kniazkov)


LAREDO, Texas – This border area is one of the least publicized international crisis zones. More Americans have been kidnapped just in this area than in all of Iraq by Islamic terrorists.



Twenty-six Americans are now officially listed as missing in the Laredo-Nuevo Laredo region of the U.S.-Mexico border—in addition to the more than 400 Mexicans reported to be suffering a similar fate.



The number of American civilians missing or kidnapped in Iraq since the beginning of the war is 23 as of last September, the latest figure released by the State Department.



And then there are the executions.



Unlike Muslim jihadists, enforcers from the feuding Gulf and Sinaloa Mexican drug cartels favor off-camera basement executions and oil-drum burials.



“I’ve seen these barrels with bodies stuffed into them,” said a U.S. law enforcement official, who, like most here, spoke on condition of anonymity. “It’s horrible, but it is really happening.”



First acid is poured in to break up flesh and bone. Then the drum is filled with diesel fuel.



A match—that’s all it takes to turn a life into a heap of ashes.



How many of those unaccounted for have already been “processed” this way? Nobody here knows—or is eager to find out.



“The Mexican government has lost control along the border,” fumes Rick Flores, the youthful Webb County sheriff.



“They had 176 murders in Nuevo Laredo last year, and none of them have been solved. In the first less than six weeks of this year, there were another 27 murders. Again, none solved. At the rate they are going, the death toll will be over 300 by year’s end.”



If anything, Mr. Flores said, the cartels have become more brazen, more willing to reach for their guns.



On Jan. 3 there was a harrowing standoff with heavily armed suspected cartel paramilitaries in the hamlet of El Cenizo, about 15 miles south of here.



An alleged smuggler drove a van pursued by sheriff’s deputies into the Rio Grande and used his cell phone to call in reinforcements.



“They arrived within minutes—all clad in black, all with AK-47s—and took up positions on the Mexican bank,” recalls Mr. Flores. “They shouted to us in English—and I convey these words literally—‘You wanna play, mother f…rs? Let’s play!’ Unfortunately, we could not engage them across an international boundary.”



Law enforcement officials don’t believe the gunmen were the much-publicized Los Zetas, members of a U.S.-trained Mexican special forces unit, who deserted in the 1990s to become enforcers for the Gulf Cartel.



They say about half of the original 33-member group have already been captured or killed, and, according to the most recent intelligence, only one or two of those still at large work in the Nuevo Laredo sector.



But they are concerned the group has spawned in northern Mexico a kind of cultural franchise with its seemingly infinite litter of Zetas imitators, wannabes and unscrupulous thugs.



“They don’t even court women anymore. They abduct them at gunpoint and give them as presents to their bosses,” Mr. Flores says, shaking his head. “Here, beauty can be a curse.”



That is what happened, many believe, to U.S. citizens Yvette Martinez and Brenda Cisneros, who disappeared in Nuevo Laredo in September 2004.



There is also evidence, officials warn, of foreign fighters heavily moving into the region.



The Gulf Cartel, bloodied in the turf war, they say, is actively recruiting reinforcements from among “kaibiles,” former Guatemalan guerrilla fighters. The Sinaloa Cartel is bringing in members of the MS-13 gang from El Salvador.



And there have been other new arrivals that officials say worry them even more.



Mexico has long had a thriving Middle Eastern community, but there is word it might now be getting new, possibly less benevolent members.



“We’ve had source intelligence that there are possible terrorist cells making their way into Mexico, who want to learn the language and culture and camouflage themselves as Mexicans,” said another law enforcement official, who requested anonymity.



“There have been new arrivals of that kind in Nuevo Laredo as well, and we don’t know yet whether their business is legitimate.”



Coincidentally or not, Laredo police and federal agents busted in early February what amounts to an underground factory for manufacturing improvised explosive devices comparable to those used in Iraq, seizing about half a dozen ready-made bombs and materials able to make almost 100 more.



A puzzling incursion, local officials said, was witnessed in the middle of the night 20 miles south of Laredo about a year ago.



About 20 physically well-trained men, all dressed in black with automatic rifles slung over their shoulders, crossed the Rio Grande and headed into the U.S., carrying oversized duffel bags.



“They were intercepted by the Border Patrol further down. But to this day, we don’t know what was in these bags,” one of the officials said. “Whatever the cargo, these men appeared to be ready to pick up a major fight to protect it. And that’s very unusual for a drug smuggling operation.”



A request for information left with the Border Patrol still remains unanswered.



- Maxim Kniazkov is a Washington-based journalist
 
Sounds like a dangerous place. Hopefully, Congress will implement the immigration program President Bush has presented, and we can begin to get control of this situation.
 
As a Texan...

...I'm gonna quote Yogi Berra on this one, regarding Laredo: "Nobody goes there anymore--it's too crowded."

It is well-known among most Texans that Laredo is a no-go place right now, unless you're spoiling for a gun fight.
 
. . . and the president thinks Mexicans do jobs 'Muricans won't do. You can not tell me there are no contract killers in the US. Now they may not want to work at Mexican wages, but we have our contract killers.
 
‘You wanna play, mother f…rs? Let’s play!’

The Mexican Narcos are sure getting cocky. I wonder how much longer before the feces hits the rotating oscillator along the border? I'll be interested to see what the Feds reaction will be when it finally happens.
 
The Mexican Narcos are sure getting cocky. I wonder how much longer before the feces hits the rotating oscillator along the border? I'll be interested to see what the Feds reaction will be when it finally happens.
Commissions, studies, blue ribbon panels, and congressional investigations.

Pilgrim
 
The Feds will do what they're told to do. I think we know what they will be told by the people really running America right now. Maybe they'll create a new State to cover the "region" we used to call the border. I suggest the name Narconia.
 
I suggest "Landministan". Should get the message across. We go pick up the body, then charge the family the cost of recovery and for the mine.:fire: The Feds really need to clean up that place.
 
saw that on foxnews this morning, and sadly it doesn't really surprise me.

Will it change anything? I highly doubt it. But it would be nice if we as a country grew some danglys the size of grapefruits and when the goverment fails to protect us formed militas, patrols, whatever your prefered term is and did it ourselves. If boarder towns with this problem put a call to arms for every abled bodied citizen with organized groups and patrols I doubt you would see any more of this crap.

But then even guys in lawn chairs and binoculers get called vigalantes, citizens that did the above suggested would probably be called terrorists :rolleyes: It is time for Bush to get off his keester and do his job, which is protecting America, when we worry about people in Iraq being abducted and executed and put squat to citizens right here at home there is something seriously ass backwards.
 
Bush was slapped silly over Harriett Meiers nomination.

He was again slapped silly over the ports fiasco. People want to know why the public is so upset over the ports. I think people are PO'd over the southern border games he's playing and just took the opportunity to slap 'em upside the haid over ports. One of two things will happen. His head will get increasingly soft and lumpy or he will gain a clue. I just don't see either side backing down.
 
“They arrived within minutes—all clad in black, all with AK-47s—and took up positions on the Mexican bank,” recalls Mr. Flores. “They shouted to us in English—and I convey these words literally—‘You wanna play, mother f…rs? Let’s play!’ Unfortunately, we could not engage them across an international boundary.”

Why? Does the border stop bullets? Doesn't seem to stop anything else.... :banghead:

When someone on this side finally tests that theory, we'll see what side Bush takes.... :scrutiny:
 
When someone on this side finally tests that theory, we'll see what side Bush takes....
That's the problem. Everyone already knows what side Bush will take, and our guys know that if push comes to shove, they'll be the ones that end up in court for the "illegal" murder of an "innocent" Mexican citizen. :barf:
 
But it would be nice if we as a country grew some danglys the size of grapefruits and when the goverment fails to protect us formed militas, patrols, whatever your prefered term is and did it ourselves. If boarder towns with this problem put a call to arms for every abled bodied citizen with organized groups and patrols I doubt you would see any more of this crap.

You're going to be trading fire with the U.S. military, amigo, and you're going to be stigmatized as vigilantes or insurrectionists or militants or anarchists.

This problem has to be addressed in D.C.

Bush gain a clue? He's on a mission from [fill in the blank]. Kennebunkport? Davos? The Skull & Bones "mausoleum" at Yale?
 
You're going to be trading fire with the U.S. military, amigo, and you're going to be stigmatized as vigilantes or insurrectionists or militants or anarchists.

This problem has to be addressed in D.C.

Bush gain a clue? He's on a mission from [fill in the blank]. Kennebunkport? Davos? The Skull & Bones "mausoleum" at Yale?
Refer to the next part of my post. The truth of your post reinforces the ass backwards point at the end of my post.
 
But then even guys in lawn chairs and binoculers get called vigalantes, citizens that did the above suggested would probably be called terrorists It is time for Bush to get off his keester and do his job, which is protecting America, when we worry about people in Iraq being abducted and executed and put squat to citizens right here at home there is something seriously ass backwards.

Maybe after the Mexicans overrun Texas up to the Rio Grande River, the U.S. will wake up and elect another James K. Polk and take back Texas -- and part of Mexico, for good measure.:D
 
Rio Grande?

This is an attack from maternity wards in Ohio, Nebraska, North Carolina. They are well "behind the lines."

The Poobahs decided a while ago that cheap labor was the ticket and, hey, somebody's got to pay into Social Security for the Baby Boomers that are financially too pooped to pop.
 
I have no idea what the purpose of the article was. What is the significance of comparing incidents along the Texas-Mexico bordre with Iraq? Is Iraq the standard by which we judge our lives?

Every so oftem, somebody does a study showing how a city like New York or D.C. is more dangerous to American lives than Iraq.

Border areas are dangerous in many parts of the world as they offer a means of quick escape from one country to the next.

The story is sensationalized with the not quite relative informaiton on things like oil barrel burials. So it happens. How many Americans are documented in the barrels? Where are the barrels found? I seem to recall Americans not being common and that the burials of barrel are in Mexico.

People being kidnapped in the border area? Really? How many were stateside kidnappings versus how many were kidnappings in Mexico? Of the state-side kidnappings, how many had nothing to do with Mexico or going to Mexico?

Unless things have changed, most of the kidnappings and such happen south of the border, not north of it.

Contrary to the article title and thread title, these are not kidnappings and attacks along the Mexican border. The area of "along the Mexican border" is stateside. The vast majority of these events are occurred inside Mexico, not the US. As such, they are kidnappings and murders "along the US border" in places like Nuevo Laredo.

So Nuevo Laredo has a high crime rate. What else is new? Lots of places do. The only reason the US gives a darn is because the violence which as been ongoing for quite a while now, is now extended to tourists and visitors in Mexico. If you don't go to Mexico, then your chances of being kidnapped or killed there drop dramatically.
 
Rio Grande?

This is an attack from maternity wards in Ohio, Nebraska, North Carolina. They are well "behind the lines."

By "Mexicans" I meant illegals and drug gangs invading, and not necessarily all of them are Mexicans. Islamists have been penetrating into the U.S. through the southern border as well. Texas law enforcement officials point out that the violence is so bad on the border that there are running gun battles between U.S./Texas law enforcement personnel and the invaders:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060302-124525-9041r.htm
 
Guns UP!!!

Obviously, it is time to stop talking and start shooting.:evil:

If "The Government" does not have the testicles to seal our southern border, We The People should do it for them. This is a matter of national security.

It is an absolute outrage that the Bush administration is more concerned about security in Iraq than security of our southern border.

Bush needs to wake up and do the right thing about this issue.:fire:
 
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