NC: Guns in restaurants bill introduced

[LAR-15]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NORTH CAROLINA

SESSION 2007

H 1

HOUSE BILL 831*









Short Title: Personal Protection in Restaurants.
(Public)

Sponsors:
Representatives Hilton, Steen (Primary Sponsors); Barnhart, Blust, Cleveland, Folwell, Frye, Gulley, Killian, Moore, Neumann, Samuelson, and Starnes.

Referred to:
Judiciary I.



March 15, 2007

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT to allow persons with concealed handgun permits to protect themselves and their families in restaurants.

The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts:

SECTION 1. G.S. 14‑269.3(b) is amended by adding a new subdivision to read:

"(5) A person on the premises of an establishment that is a restaurant under G.S. 18B‑1000(2) or G.S. 18B‑1000(6) provided the person has a valid concealed handgun permit under Article 54B of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes."

SECTION 2. This act becomes effective December 1, 2007.

 

[lacoochee]

Hope this passes, it will make my annual trip Buncombe County to visit my Grandparents, a lot easier. I end up having to ignore your carry laws and hope that if I need to use my weapon to defend my family that the cops will look the other way.

 

[LAR-15]

Send an email to every politician on that list and every Buncombe County politician.

We need all the help we can in passing this and as a visitor to NC, you have a stake in it. Don't feel your wasting your time.

$$$ talks.

 

[frayluisfan]

Yahoo!!

Wish they'd add movie theaters too!

 

[YankeeRebel]

Why the wait till December 1, 2007, for it to go into effect? I could see July 1, 2007.

 

[LAR-15]

I dunno but I think that is to give plenty of time for the bill to pass before it goes into effect.

I.E. give law enforcement, gun owners, and restaurant owners time to prepare for the change in the law.

 

[runfrumu]

I love my state!

 

[Hokkmike]

It can save lives and protect the innocent.

 

[rantingredneck]

So, for you legal experts out there, would this apply even if the restaurant had a liquor license and a bar at the same location? Like if I went into a Rock-Ola or O'Charleys or Chili's that are restaurants and bars in one?

I avoid the bars as I rarely drink anymore and I'm a non-smoker who can't deal with all the smoke in that part of the restaurant. I'm just wondering how far this could apply, since those types of restaurants are where my family and I eat most of the time when we eat out.

 

[TexasRifleman]

In Texas and I think other states how it's done is to go off of the 51% rule.

If more than 51% of the revenue comes from alcohol sales, its a bar.

Less than 51% then it's a restaurant.

In Texas the liquor control board requires a sing showing that to be posted and if you see that sign you can't carry since by definition you are in a bar.

I would assume something similar in your state is the plan but that's just a guess.

 

[johndoe1027]

Now I guess I was mislead about the carry laws in NC but I thought that restaurants were okay as long as no alcohol is served and consumed on the premises. I know that most do serve but some don't.
I didn't even think about movie theatres (admission)!!!
I saw 300 on Saturday and carried right on in there. I also carried right into the office this morning. There's one bad thing about having a comfortable carry setup.... I completely forgot I was carrying this morning.

Wish they'd add movie theaters too!

Theatres have a double whammy if they sell beer (didn't know that was even an option until just this weekend). I am not too hopeful about theatres.

I hope this passes too. I'll have to get to writing some letters.
Thanks Lar-15!

 

[LAR-15]

This would allow concealed carry in restaurants that serve alcohol.

 

[44Brent]

Okay, before anyone writes their legislators, I would like to suggest a different way to promote this bill.

DON'T tell legislators that you want guns in restaurants!

DO tell them that you want citizens who have passed a background check to be allowed to enter restaurants.

The person who frames the debate wins -- and if you frame it as "guns in restaurants" then you have already done the work of antis on their behalf.

 

[outofbattery]

I never bothered to get my NC CCW due to the number of restrictions and places posted and now when I return to visit,it takes some readjustment of thinking as I carry everywhere legally in MA but have to be mindful of where I'm going down there.It's just bad lawmaking that you can't legally carry at Chili's or the movies or while watching a parade.I respect private businesses ability to allow or not citizens to carry but my general take on it is that if you don't trust me to be a good citizen then I don't need to give your business any money.

 

[usaimages]

If they would only add a few more places to that list.

 

[LAR-15]

btt

 

[stevemis]

Bookmark...

http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2007&BillID=h831

 

[johndoe1027]

In Texas the liquor control board requires a sing showing that to be posted and if you see that sign you can't carry since by definition you are in a bar.

I can't believe that you can't carry into a bar in Texas. I thought you could open carry then it was legal to shoot someone for ashing in your ashtray.
Nevermind me, I'm just jealous.