Ogre's AR-15

[Tamara]

JShirley,

(However, it is a matter of fact that the design is late 1950's. )

A babe in the woods compared to the Ma Deuce or the M1911. You have other, better, arguments; you should drop the age one.

 

[Correia]

Zak, not looking likely. Unless it costs a lot less to fix my mini van than I expect.

 

[MrAcheson]

Seems like this thread is jumping the tracks...

While Andrew's question isn't fair, it does have a point. The AK market isn't especially feature rich right now compared to the AR market. Some of those features (like ways to mount optics) are important to people like me with bad eyesight. Others are damn near unreasonable (drop free).

 

[George Hill]

"However, it is a matter of fact that the design is late 1950's."
Not an arguement... still a fact. Most leading nations armies have been upgrading rifles this last 10 years or 20... we have not.
Not saying we have to keep up with the Joneses but we should at least try to keep with with the Ivans and the Chans.

Heck, even some of the nations that are devout to the AK configuration have been working on improving it. We haven't we just shorten the barrel and pretend it's something new and wonderful.

The AK Market isn't epsecially feature rich? Maybe not... maybe not...
But name something you can mount on an AR that you can't mount on an AK.

OH... another rifle worth looking at is the Beretta AR-70. Didn't Tamara have one?

 

[Tamara]

OH... another rifle worth looking at is the Beretta AR-70. Didn't Tamara have one?

Dumped it. Dumped the Daewoo. Dumped the .223 all-alloy FAL. As soon as I get another 16" 5.56 AR screwed together, the HK-91 goes back to hang on the wall next to the pre-ban AKM/47S underfolder, Garand, and FN-49.

Even Italy never adopted the AR-70 completely, since the mags aren't STANAG compatable and the receiver is made from folded Wrigley's wrappers. The AR-70/90 has cute steel bars tack-welded down each side of the reciever to fix that problem.

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

hold on a minute.


What vintage is the AK?

 

[Tamara]

Andrew wyatt,

What vintage is the AK?

Oh, it's much older than the M-16, but remember: A smaller caliber and different muzzle brake on a fifty+ year old AK (with sights no different from a 100+ year-old Mosin) is an "improvement", while an M4 is just an "M16 with a shorter barrel."

 

[Jake 98c/11b]

Tamara, I like you more and more with each posting. Damn shame I missed you at the SHOT show last year. Missed this one with this deployment too.