Options on 357Sig?

[Rob G]

My carry weapon is a .40 M&P compact with a factory 357 Sig barrel in it. It's a great shooting gun that's been absolutely reliable thus far. Having had the opportunity to shoot it side by side with the comparable Glock model (can't remember which it was right now) I found the M&P to be a little softer shooting and a little quicker on follow up shots. My understanding is that the steel frame sigs are even nicer but the M&P is really sweet.

Other than ammo costing more and holding fewer rounds it won't do anything a 9mm won't do.

I hear this a lot and it's just not true. Nine millimeter in its' hottest loadings just barely reaches the capabilities of 357 Sig loaded to standard pressure levels. When you get hot loads for the 357 Sig it leaves the 9mm far behind. Now is all that power strictly necessary for self defense? Maybe not. But I don't mind having it available to me anyway.

 

[Glockensig]

I have a few in this caliber. I would have to say the P229 is my favorite followed by, since you say no Glocks, The Sig 2340/2022, The M&P and M&P compact. If you want to know whats available for ammo see HERE for a good thread!

 

[Girodin]

Steyr M series.

 

[Simmy952]

Own a G23 with a G32 barrel and a P229 in .40 with the 357 Sig barrel. Both handle the .357 Sig round very well. Glock or Sig would be my choice but that is just me and my worthless opinion. Try and see what works for you.

 

[Glockensig]

Steyr M series.

I heard the M series had a lot of ejection issues...especially the early ones...

 

[Girodin]

I heard the M series had a lot of ejection issues...especially the early ones...

Of the three I've owned, I have never experienced it. Only one of those was an early gun the rest were 1As one of which was the newest verision. I have heard talk of it online, but never seen it, or experienced it. As I understand it the extractor was redesigned. Old guns with issues seem to be cured with the new extractor. Basically at this point I'd think the risk of having an issue like that is lower than getting a glock with BTF issues, or a horridly inaccurate M&P, and it also appears to be an easier fix than either of those as well.

I'll put it this way, I'd buy another Steyr (and did) long before I'd buy another Sig p229.

 

[wally]

Other than ammo costing more and holding fewer rounds it won't do anything a 9mm won't do.

Not quite, it won't do anything .38 Super won't do unless you are really overloading your nines. But the .38 super has the negative of needing a .45/10mm sized grip instead of the .40/9mm sized gtrp of the .357 SIG giving it a solid niche.

 

[Sergei Mosin]

But the .38 super has the negative of needing a .45/10mm sized grip instead of the .40/9mm sized gtrp of the .357 SIG giving it a solid niche.

Given that the .38 Super is usually found in 1911s and the .357 SIG is usually found in fat doublestack pistols, I'm not quite sure where you're coming from here.

 

[armsmaster270]

I have had no problems with my Sig 226 in 357Sig. it is my carry gun. It is accurate & reliable.

 

[wally]

Given that the .38 Super is usually found in 1911s and the .357 SIG is usually found in fat doublestack pistols, I'm not quite sure where you're coming from here.

There is round fat and oval fat double stack. The disadvantage is a double stack .38Super is oval fat. In single stack the .38 Super is at a serious round count disadvantage. Many 1911 .38Super pistols are double stack based on Para Ordnance style widebody 1911 frames.

I guess you could sum up my point as .38Super can do everything .357 SIG does but .357 SIG has a niche because either the .38Super is "too fat" or only holds about half the rounds.

 

[sugerwater]

Back from the range again. Shooting American Eagle 125 FMJ. These things scream out of the 229. Finished of the day with some 125 JHP's, some Winchesters and some Rangers. I may never shoot a .357 Mag again. I was lucky to score a pretty good size stash of 357sig this week. Seems most .40's will also covert to 357sig. Get both.

 

[1006]

I've had a few, all M&P's. they have all been 100% thus far. (Only about 600rds total) Anyone know if S&W still offers these guns? I've heard conflicting reports

 

[Rob G]

Anyone know if S&W still offers these guns? I've heard conflicting reports

Supposedly the still make the full size version but no longer make the compact. However they still make all the parts for both. When I wanted a compact version in 357 Sig I just bought the .40 and ordered a 357 Sig barrel from S&W. I think it cost me all of $80 shipped which is not a bad deal for a factory made drop in barrel.

 

[Sergei Mosin]

There is round fat and oval fat double stack. The disadvantage is a double stack .38Super is oval fat. In single stack the .38 Super is at a serious round count disadvantage. Many 1911 .38Super pistols are double stack based on Para Ordnance style widebody 1911 frames.

I guess you could sum up my point as .38Super can do everything .357 SIG does but .357 SIG has a niche because either the .38Super is "too fat" or only holds about half the rounds.

Hadn't thought about the doublestack 1911s.

Like you, I think of them as roughly equivalent cartridges, but I tend to think of their niche as being related to the different pistols - if you prefer 1911/SA type guns, you'll generally go for .38 Super, if you prefer DA/SA, striker-fired, or polymer-framed guns, you'll generally go for .357 SIG. Of course there are always some exceptions such as the .38 Super P220 and the .357 SIG 1911s, but that's gun guys for you!

 

[mr.trooper]

The Steyr M series are excellent pistols. They don't get as much press as they deserve.

 

[Phaedrus/69]

If you dig around a little you can find the HK USPc chambered in .357 Sig. I don't think they're being made right now but they're still in the pipeline. And I also wouldn't worry at all about buying HK used.

 

[Armor Snail]

The FNP was available in that caliber as well. Another to look for.

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