doggy1953
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Thinking about getting a RIA 45 but heard they are tough to break down for cleaning. Any comments or exiperences? What about a ATI 45 for ease of cleaning? Thanks for any info.
RIA 45 cleaning.
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Nushif
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Same as any 1911 as far as i know.
Mine is the compact and it is even easier to clean than a fullsize.
No clue what this rumour is about.
Mine is the compact and it is even easier to clean than a fullsize.
No clue what this rumour is about.
Nushif
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I actually find a full length guide rod a lot easier to clean. Breakdown is almost like a Glock rather than fumbling with a barrel lug ... Bushing ... Thing.
KingMedicine
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My ria 9mm tac is my easiest 1911 to clean.
possum
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They (1911's) are indeed different from most of the guns that I am used too, however it is nothing to take em apart, clean and service them, IE change springs etc. You have to remember that it was Military issue at one time. If a whole bunch of troops from all kinds of backgrounds and experience levels could clean and maintain one, the modern day gun owner should have no issue what so ever. Mush like the ar, if the masses can do who mostly are not "gun people" and can do so well, most people that are "gun people" will be able to clean, lube, and maintain with ease.
MICHAEL T
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The 1911 was designed when most people didn't finish grade school. They could take them apart and clean . Then again they were really smarter, than most people today. They had common sense . You might want to look at a revolver
Just kidding their not that hard. My 16 year old daughter cleans mine when were done shooting .
Just kidding their not that hard. My 16 year old daughter cleans mine when were done shooting .
wally
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On my RIA Tactical I ground just enough off the front of the guide rod so the bushing could turn, but not so much that it doesn't protrude into the shoulder region.
You could always just replace it with a standard plunger and rod if it really bothers you.
You could always just replace it with a standard plunger and rod if it really bothers you.
Carter
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Youtube is your friend. I generally use it the first time I'm disassembling any firearm for the first time.
ThePunisher'sArmory
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Ditto.
doggy1953
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Thanks your input. I have no problem cleaning my other 45, just wanted to check that rumour out before I buy one.
The nice thing about a Series 70 1911 is that you can take it COMPLETELY down and clean absolutely everything. With most autos, you can't take the slide completely down without special training, so places like your firing pin channel never get cleaned. In fact, the Glock manual says to hold the slide muzzel pointing downwards while cleaning to avoid getting gunk into the firing pin/striker area. Any lay person can COMPLETELY disassemble a 1911 (series 70).
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I had never owned a 1911 before I bought my RIA tactical. Youtube videos helped a lot. After learning the steps, it doesn't really take any longer than cleaning my other auto guns. Sweetest shooting gun I own.
possum
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I am a lay person for sure, and this is one of the big reasons I love the 70 series 1911's. I am able to get in there and really clean out the inside of the slide as well as change strker springs. I prefer to have the satisfaction of doing things myself if at all possible.
the 70 series to me makes it like a glock and or xd in the fact that I can get that slide apart and really go to town on it.
Fishslayer
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I have no problem at all.
The FLGR is a bit different from the ones I had in the military. Follow the instructions in the manual (I know. Unmanly.) and you'll be OK.
Don't know why people say you need a bushing wrench. My left thumbnail depresses the plunger just fine.
The FLGR is a bit different from the ones I had in the military. Follow the instructions in the manual (I know. Unmanly.
) and you'll be OK. Don't know why people say you need a bushing wrench. My left thumbnail depresses the plunger just fine.
Watch some youtube videos and see what all is entailed. At first I was daunted by it, because there's a lotta parts in there. Its not like field stripping a glock. But the nice thing is, you COMPLETELY clean the thing. In the glock manual it says to hold the slide muzzle down while cleaning so you don't get all kinda of gunk in the firing pin. That's true with a LOTTA guns. But with a 1911, you take it completely apart (if you want to) and can clean every millimeter of the thing.
Or you can skip a lot of that stuff and not take it all the way down. Its your choice.
Huh. I just noticed that I responded to this thread twice with almost the exact same info. Fancy that!
Or you can skip a lot of that stuff and not take it all the way down. Its your choice.
Huh. I just noticed that I responded to this thread twice with almost the exact same info. Fancy that!
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Nushif
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Concerning the FLGR ... I don't take mine down anything like people say it's done right and still have no problems. that whole using the pin and stuff really seems to be a way to force a square peg in a round hole. Not *every* 1911 variety needs to have the recoil spring removed before you take the slide off, I find.
What I do is this, I pull the slide back until I can get the slide stop out, then I remove the slide, take it apart, clean, etc. reassembled, insert the slide into the rails, pull back, line up slide stop, shove in ... done.
I don't know why you'd complicate the whole affair with some pin and fancy technique. A 1911 with a FLGR almost feels like a Glock in takedown and assembly. Just a little trickier.
What I do is this, I pull the slide back until I can get the slide stop out, then I remove the slide, take it apart, clean, etc. reassembled, insert the slide into the rails, pull back, line up slide stop, shove in ... done.
I don't know why you'd complicate the whole affair with some pin and fancy technique. A 1911 with a FLGR almost feels like a Glock in takedown and assembly. Just a little trickier.
ol' scratch
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Just like cleaning any other 1911 probably because it is a 1911 
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.M1911s hard to take down for cleaning? Not true.
JMB designed the 1911 so that it can be completely stripped using only the rim of a bullet casing (for the grip screws). Everything else can be done using parts integral to the pistol like the hammer strut.
With M1911s that use a FLGR, you will need to one more tool to disassemble, it's called a paper clip.
Look at this link to learn more.
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/toolbox.htm
JMB designed the 1911 so that it can be completely stripped using only the rim of a bullet casing (for the grip screws). Everything else can be done using parts integral to the pistol like the hammer strut.
With M1911s that use a FLGR, you will need to one more tool to disassemble, it's called a paper clip.
Look at this link to learn more.
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/toolbox.htm
Nushif
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I never even knew you needed one until I saw a youtube video about it. Please don't tell my New agent I was taking it apart incorrectly before I knew I needed a paper clip. 8)
Unless RIA is or has ever used a different style of FLGR...
The one they use is all but as easy and simple as the normal GI spring and plug. No paper clip required.
You can take the slide off, as others have said, without even touching the guide rod.
But, if you want to remove the FLGR:
Push down on the recoil spring plug.
Rotate the barrel bushing clockwise, and the plug and spring can be removed (and can shoot out if you don't keep hold of it). This much is all but identical to a normal 1911. (Except that the recoil spring plug is open at both ends, instead of only one like on a GI plug.)
Removing the slide stop about now works well.
Remove the slide.
The FLGR can be removed by picking it up and sliding it out toward the rear of the slide.
I didn't describe everything in minute detail, but I'm sure most of you folks can follow.
The one they use is all but as easy and simple as the normal GI spring and plug. No paper clip required.
You can take the slide off, as others have said, without even touching the guide rod.
But, if you want to remove the FLGR:
Push down on the recoil spring plug.
Rotate the barrel bushing clockwise, and the plug and spring can be removed (and can shoot out if you don't keep hold of it). This much is all but identical to a normal 1911. (Except that the recoil spring plug is open at both ends, instead of only one like on a GI plug.)
Removing the slide stop about now works well.
Remove the slide.
The FLGR can be removed by picking it up and sliding it out toward the rear of the slide.
I didn't describe everything in minute detail, but I'm sure most of you folks can follow.
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