Rifle Scopes

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I have just recently purchased my sabre defense ar-15. Everyone I have talked to has said this gun is highly accurate, it is after all already chambered for the very accurate .223 round. I want to get a nice glass for it, any suggestions as to what scope would be the best for my budget(i just laid down a good bit if cash for the rifle so I am looking <500 price range, i know this is a hard task) I came across a website and found these following brand scopes, can someone with experience with these, or knowledge enlighten me a little? Thanks


BSA optics

Bushnell

Barska

NcStar

Leapers Accushot

Tasco
 
Most of those brands you listed are pretty low end scopes. What are you looking to do with your scope? Varminting? Plinking? Combat shooting?

For varminting, a Burris 6-24x with mil dot reticle will run you about $464 at optics planet.

For combat type shooting, you'll want a red dot. Aimpoint and Eotech are generally the best in this area.
 
I use eotech but you have to tweak it. mine was way right and high. its set for 25 meters. I love it.
 
I agree with The-Fly. I have first hand knowledge of how bad the BSA, Barska, leapers, and the older Tascos are. The Bushnells are better than they used to be and the Tascos are also iffy.

You should scrub your list and make it look more like this (lowest end to highest):

Sightron
Super Sniper (made by Tasco, but much better than traditional Tasco scopes)
Weaver
Burris
Meopta
Leupold

Sightron makes a fair priced scope that is clear and tough. The S1 3-9X40mm with mil-dot is only $130, but you probably want >10 magnification over 200 yards. Burris-excellent optics for what you are looking at spending. Weaver makes a good target scope for long range in 6-24X42mm for around $350. Leupold-many different scopes across many variable powers. You can get better scopes, but this will probably put you over $500. These are my OPINIONS from my experiences with scopes and quality optics. Any of these make very fine optics. If you want tactical you need to consider EOTECH, Trijicon, Leupold MK4 and Aimpoint.
 
The SuperSniper is a great scope for the money. For what it's worth, it's not made by Tasco. Tasco never made anything. It was just a front for a number of Asian manufacturers.
 
If Tasco doesn't make the SuperSniper scopes then they just moved up a notch or two in my book. :) Not over priced either, but they are all fixed powered to my knowledge.
 
If you check out a number of tactical shooting sites like snipershide.com, you'll see that for the money, supersniper earns high marks. Tasco was the original importer, but now SWFA is handling the brand.

They are all fixed power models, with mildot reticle and 100 MOA of elevation in a 30mm tube. 10x, 16x and 20x versions, with the 10x available in a side parallax model for an extra $100. The base price from SWFA is $299.

http://www.swfa.com/c-231-super-sniper-rifle-scopes.aspx

I started with one of the original Tasco imoprted models, and found it very good. You can even get custom knobs for it from Kenton Industries calibrated to you specifications and load.

I went from SuperSniper, to Leupold MkIV to USO ST-10, and have no problem recommending this scope. It's an outstanding value.

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Umrebfan18;

I agree with birdbustr's list, but he forgot Nikon. And, there are some Zeiss Conquest scopes that will slide in under your budget figure also.

My AR platform is a varminter, I've got a Nikon Monarch 3.3-10X A/O mil-dot on it. This is the older Monarch though, Nikon updated their entire line earlier this year. If you get way lucky, you might still find one of these on close-out at Natchez, Bear Basin, SWFA, or Midway. They were selling for under $300.00 when they were available. List was something like $485.00 & they commonly sold on the open market for right around $400.00 a year and a half ago.

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Umrebfan18: - I think you need to more clearly identify what type of shooting you'll be doing. Will it be close in tactical shooting, (0-100 yards)? Will it be medium to long range shooting, (50-500 yards)? You need to realistically define your goals with this rifle.

If it's short to medium range recreational plinking, home defense and such, I think a Trijicon Tripower will suit your needs perfectly. If you want a combination of accuracy, ruggedness and magnification, then you needn't break the bank necessarily. On the higher end, Leupold Vari 1-4x would be perfect and on the more affordable end, Millet makes an excellent tactical scope and their new DMS-1 is a beautiful scope for short money. That combines the features of a red dot with the magnification of a scope. If you want magnification beyond 1-4x then, look at SuperSniper for sure, Leupold, Nikon and my surprise favorite, Swift. I had a Swift 4-18x mounted on my Colt National Match AR for almost a decade. I now use it from time to time on my Troy MCS M1A. It was and still is a great scope - super picture, nice eye relief, rugged and reliable. I put thousands and thousands of rounds downtown with that scope and it's good to go. Unless something significant has changed in their manufacturing since 1997, I think it's one of the most underrated scopes out there and it will save you money for ammo.

I also must confess that I find 'exceptions to the rule' on optics. Mounted on the carry handle for my old Colt, was (and still is) a Eurolux 4x that I bought at SG for $29.99 - also in 1997. Again, I dumped much ammo using that scope and the buddy I sold it to, still does. It has a bullet drop compensator, nice crisp picture and absolutely holds zero. I beat the snot out of it and so does he. If it wasn't on my rifle, it was attached to the carry handle in my range bag. I also have an old Simmons 3-9x40 that I bought in 1986 for 40-bucks. A dealer friend bought a crate of them. They were rubber armored orange camoflage. I painted mine OD with some Testors spray paint and mounted it on my HK93A2. It's still there and still accurate. On the other hand, I have a Schmidt-Bender on my 91...See what I mean? Lastly, a member at my range has a Leapers Accushot on his AR-15 and adores it. Judging by the 100 and 200 yard groups he's getting, I'd say it was short money well spent.

Define your purpose, define your need, define your budget and choose accordingly. You don't necessarily have to buy high end to get great results.
 
Whatever scope you decide on, you should check out Arcadian-Sales.com for some very good prices. Jack there beat OpticsPlanet by $110 on a Nikon Monarch 5x20 that I received yesterday.
 
My fault for not clearly defining my purpose, I will be using this scope for medium-long range, (100-500) yards. This is my first AR type rifle, and with my current set up I have been told i can expect very good accuracy potential out of it. I have flip up peep sights to use for fun and for any close range shooting, at the time i am not really interested in the military, close range type scopes or red dots.

If it would be better to go ahead and spend a little more money for the quality I will do that, those brands i named off were just a few of the less expensive brands at this website i was looking at. I am familiar with the Leupold scopes, i have a VX II 3-9 on my .270 and a VX III 4.5-14x50 on my .300 rem ultra mag. I like both of them however I just would like to get a good quality scope that i can make accurate shots out 300-400 yards with for varmint hunting/ coyote/ target shooting. (hopefully with a power range >14 power
 
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