Scam, prank or maybe a potential sting?

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Monkeyleg

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Late last night, the following email was sent to ten shops on my website:

"Hello,

I'm Mr. ______, I live in France in Strasbourg and I wish to
acquire a firearm. I want the SMITH & WESSON MODEL 910S PISTOL, I can pay up to 1000 USD but at this price I want that the gun is new and are recorded in the name of a private individual.

I have a relatively modest budget, I'm ready to pay 750 EUR per WESTERN UNION with the expenses of transfer of money include. In France it's difficult to obtain a weapon in spite of the omnipresence of the insecurity which reigns here. I wish to buy a handgun to ensure my safety, that the law doesn't grant and ain't a basic right in my country.

I'm a french authentic, a person in charge and I can send an identity paper.

On standby of a positive response of your share.

Better greeting.

Edouard"


Ok, I get emails like this all the time from people in foreign countries.

Here's the weird part. At about 5 pm CST today, I got a call from a guy claiming to live in Paris, France. He wanted to know how he could buy a Smith and Wesson pistol from one of the shops on my site. Given the emails I'd seen to my subscribing shops earlier in the day, I was more than suspicious, and told the guy as much. He denied being the author of the email (yeah, right).

I explained that he would need to talk to the owner of a gun business that had a federal import/export license, that I didn't know the legalities, and couldn't help him any further.

I get emails like these very frequently.

If this is all a joke, that's fine. If it's a fishing or sting operation by the ATF, though, it's not funny. (NOTE TO ATF: I do not sell guns, nor do I broker gun sales).

Sheesh.
 
Dick,
There are foreign scams to get your money daily -- never accept funds on a foreign bank or money order unless you know the person. People are constantly getting taken advantage of by some foreign national sending them a check for too much and wanting a refund, or paying with bogus funds. My bet is its more of a scam than a sting.
 
I work for a mapping company and we also have a retail store.

We get people from the middle east, africa and southeast asia emailing us all the time trying to get us to sell GPS units to them.

Apparently exporting a GPS unit is about as difficult as exporting a firearm.


Anyway, we just forward them to the local FBI office and they probably ignore them.
 
if you don't sell guns what do you care?
I don't buy viagra so I don't even click on the spam they send me.
 
They send you a check over the amount, probably a third party check, you send them the "overage" and the item. Check is either good and from a scammed account, or check bounces. Either way they make out and you don't.
 
"SCAM!" is the first thing that comes screaming to mind. Very popular gimmick right now is for some foreign person to send you a 'certified/cashier's check' for a couple of thousand OVER the agreed price for an item... could be a boat/car/firearm/RV, etc. You are supposed to send back the overage via "Western Union" or bank wire transfer, etc. They get the goods AND the cash, you are left holding a big bag full of nuthin' but air, including a bogus check.

OR, it could be another sting courtesy of Mayor Mikey Bloom (ing Idiot) berg
 
This scam is used for cars, too. One guy I know who was selling a car and got propositioned like this told them he'd cash the certified check, keep the overage and credit it to their next purchase.

End of correspondence.

Hahahahahahahaaaaa!

(What I want to know with these spammers is how come they all know I'm fat, bald, poor, and impotent.)
 
If this guy was really French, he would know he could buy a rifle by just getting a hunting licence (piece of cake).
If he wants a handgun, he'll have to register to a shooting club, fill in a few papers and wait about 6 months. No problem if you never have been involved in criminal activities before.

Definitely a scam.

I also have to say that we are pretty bad in English in general, hence the scepticism about the use of "ain't".
 
Yes, the use of the word "ain't" struck me as peculiar.

But, then, so did the phone call. I don't get many phone calls from potentates in Nigeria offering me $1,000,000. They usually just send emails.

This Frenchman called the one shop on my site that mentions import/export at 6 am this morning.

This "Frenchman" is either a really bored US teenager who knows how to fake a French accent, or someone who's looking to stir up trouble.

No matter. He's not getting a S&W pistol from any store on my site, and no store owners on my site are going to get in trouble.

Today was a rough day on the phone with the owners of the shops on my site. The ATF is being really hard-nosed with many of them. I can't count how many have their licenses either revoked or on hold.

So it occurs to me: the anti's can just make a phone call to the local ATF office, or even engage in scams like the one above. And the potential is that a licensed dealer can lose his entire business, everything he's worked for his entire life, and then maybe even more.

What do the anti's have to lose? There's no license required for being an anti-gunner.

The ATF is out of control. So, how do we deal with that?
 
I got a call at the motorcycle shop last week that was a relay call. The operator would relay the conversation to me, and I would respond, she would relay my response, etc.
Weird.
This person on the other end, somewhere in the Pacific Rim, wanted 500 NGK spark plugs purchased on the Visa of a woman in California.
I stayed on the line long enough to get the name of the cardholder, number, and expiration of the card. Then, I said "sorry, can't help you.", called visa, reported the scam, and went back to work.

This one isn't that simple.
The ATF has been out of control for a long time.
 
I'd be inclined to abuse them in the manner of www.419eater.com where people scam the scammers back by leading them on wild goose chases, sending them doctored photos that are worse than their own, or getting them to pose for bizarre pictures to prove they are "for real" (like 'send me a pic of you with a trout on your head so I know you are for real'). If that site is still up they had a "trophy room" with tons of pics of Nigerian scammers in weird poses, as well as long stories of how they strung the scammers along, sometimes for months at a time! Funny stuff...

edit: The site is still there!

gp911
 
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