Shipping Primers

[Ruger 15151]

So I thought that in order to ship primers, Ijsut need to take them UPS or FedEx and pay the Hazmat fees. However, what I have learned is that I (the Shipper) must be Hazmat certified and contracted with either FedEx of UPS before they will ship my items. They suggested I find a local hazmat broker to do the shipping but their costs are extremely expensive for such a small shipment.

Does anyone have experience shipping hazmat materials like primers without being hazmat certified?

 

[edwardware]

Does anyone have experience shipping hazmat materials like primers without being hazmat certified?

No one who'll admit to it, because it's a violation of DOT HazMat regulations.

In other words, it's illegal.

 

[Bill M.]

My take on it is that an individual cannot ship primers. So I have not and will not do it

 

[Havok7416]

When it comes to Hazmat, the certification is for the person(s) at the dispatch end who have to package the items. FedEx and UPS are merely common carriers who are certified to transport the properly packaged Hazmat.

Please note this is merely a boiled down explanation. I used to be Hazmat certified for an employer long ago and the amount of training required for me to stay current was appalling. I have no idea what the cost to the company was, but I know it wasn't cheap.

 

[midland man]

what gets me is theres no hazmat on primed brass but only on primers why is that?

 

[Havok7416]

Primers loaded into cases are not easily set off, nor are they likely to sympathetically detonate when one of their neighbors explodes.

 

[edwardware]

what gets me is theres no hazmat on primed brass but only on primers why is that?

If you set fire to a box of a thousand primed brass, you might put your eye out, and your ears will be ringing, but you won't die. It'll take at least a couple seconds to light them all, maybe many seconds.

If you set fire to a box of a thousand primers, they will detonate at approximately the same moment, give or take a few milliseconds. The overpressure could kill you if you're close enough; the shrapnel could kill you further. The case of 5k LRM primers I received this week would probably have killed the Fedex driver from the other end of the truck if it had caught fire.

Propellant is even weirder. In a soft-side box it makes an unimpressive smoldery whoosh. Inside a strong box, it's a bomb.

Primers loaded into cases are not easily set off, nor are they likely to sympathetically detonate when one of their neighbors explodes.

Well, that answer is just too brief and to the point to be any fun!

 

[Havok7416]

If you set fire to a box of a thousand primed brass, you might put your eye out, and your ears will be ringing, but you won't die. It'll take at least a couple seconds to light them all, maybe many seconds.

If you set fire to a box of a thousand primers, they will detonate at approximately the same moment, give or take a few milliseconds. The overpressure could kill you if you're close enough; the shrapnel could kill you further. The case of 5k LRM primers I received this week would probably have killed the Fedex driver from the other end of the truck if it had caught fire.

Propellant is even weirder. In a soft-side box it makes an unimpressive smoldery whoosh. Inside a strong box, it's a bomb.


Well, that answer is just too brief and to the point to be any fun!

Sorry to disappoint. Lol

 

[fields]

Prime something before mailing them.

 

[Dead Eye Duck]

I bought 500 44 Mag cases a couple of years ago 350 + were already primed he shipped in a flat rate USPS box through the mail Jeeeez

 

[Walkalong]

No one who'll admit to it, because it's a violation of DOT HazMat regulations.

In other words, it's illegal.

That’s it in a nutshell, don’t be the one who proves it.

 

[Walkalong]

I bought 500 44 Mag cases a couple of years ago 350 + were already primed he shipped in a flat rate USPS box through the mail Jeeeez

Primed brass does not require hazmat,

 

[edwardware]

I bought 500 44 Mag cases a couple of years ago 350 + were already primed he shipped in a flat rate USPS box through the mail Jeeeez

Primed brass does not require hazmat,

Yes, but: Primed brass (like loaded ammo) is ORMD, and can't be legally shipped USPS, especially not Air (like USPS Flat Rate).

With an ORMD sticker and a few dollars more you can ship it Fedex/UPS, bur not USPS.

 

[Frank Ettin]

In another thread JohnKSa provided this link to DOT Hazmat information.

 

[George P]

Primed brass does not require hazmat,

It still cannot go USPS, UPS, yes, USPS, no.