Sig Trigger Question// STI GP6??

[gmofftarki]

Posted elsewhere, but this site gets much more traffic:

Alright, so, I'm in the process of applying for my handgun permit/CCW permit in the great state of Connecticut (Sarcasm)...

To tide me along as I go through the process, I've been going to a local rental range with my NRA Certificate to practice my shooting skills and test out a variety of handguns.

Last time I went, I tried out 4 handguns, all in 9mm for cheapness of feeding:

CZ 75B (no decocker)
Glock 17
Sig P229
S&W M&P 9

Of those, I was not a huge fan of the Glock, the CZ seemed good for what it was, but the S&W and the Sig were very comfortable.

The Sig had two "issues" that I found, that being that the magazine entered the frame at an odd angle for whatever reason, and the trigger felt "long", even in single action, as though there was supposed to be some sort of retaining pin on it that wasn't being applied when the trigger was in single action (ie. the trigger pull was the same length single or double, but the actual 'pull' was at the very end of the stroke and short). Then again, I thought that those might just be "rental gun quirks".

Is there a way to adjust the trigger's firing point such that it will fire more in the "middle" of the pull in single action, or apply some sort of retainer that will keep it from going to the very front of its length when in single action?

For reference:

If you look at an image of the STI GP6, while the hammer is back, the trigger seems to be held only at its single action length:

Finally, speaking of the STI GP6, has anyone here had the opportunity to put many rounds through it? It seems like a pretty intriguing design, and while for my first firearm I'm not sure that I'd choose something so untested and new to the market, with the STI name behind it, it seems interesting...

Thoughts?

 

[gmofftarki]

OK, so it's been pointed out to me elsewhere that the thing that I'm annoyed by is the pre-travel used to disengage the firing pin lock in the Sig trigger.

I know that Sig makes a "Short reset trigger" for its firearms, though... how much, if any, does that reduce the pre-travel?

 

[atblis]

CZs have pretravel also. Regardless having a firing pin, most DA/SA guns have some sort of pretravel before getting to the actually trigger pull when the hammer is cocked. Just part of having a mechanism that serves to different functions in different modes. You can fit a sear to a CZ, and work out some of the pretravel

I've been trying waiting for the GP6 for quite a while. I'd like to handle one before ordering, but have yet so see any on the market.

 

[Kind of Blued]

Maybe you're just not utilizing the trigger properly.

With a DA/SA Sig, the idea is to have the DA pull for a variety of reasons and then for subsequent shots, you only release pressure enough for the trigger to reset. From what I remember, this is about the same "spot" where the trigger is before it breaks for the next shots.

I don't have a Sig anymore, but that's how I remember it. If you utilize the trigger in this way, the amount of take-up is irrelevant.

Either way, that S&W M&P is a great gun too.

 

[Rossshady120]

bersa UC 9 stay on your grind, you would give your money to the germans?

 

[mgregg85]

My sig p232 only requires you to allow the trigger to go forward slightly before it resets and you may pull from that point with very little over travel. But if you let it go forward it will return tothe DA starting point.

 

[gmofftarki]

Alright, I'll have to try out the Sig again when I'm at my local rental-range. I did like how it felt in my hand.

Re: GP6, a local store has an order in on them, but hasn't gotten them into stock as yet. Very interested in it, though, since it seems to have Glock durability (shoot underwater on video on youtube) but in a DA/SA rather than DAO.

Again, though, for a first handgun I'm not sure that something so new to the market would be ideal, though 9mm is probably the ideal caliber from a price, power, practice, capacity, and versatility standpoint (no mag cap in CT.....yet).

Again, though, next time I shoot the sig I'll try to find the reset point. You're probably right, I was basically shooting single shots, not trying for the double tap or the string, taking my finger off the trigger between shots.

Thanks for the help all.

 

[gmofftarki]

GP6...

Local store got them in earlier this week. They let me handle one at the shop.

Light, nice trigger pull, great sight picture.

Definitely going to be my first purchase once the permit goes through.

 

[ckgdrums]

I was able to shoot about 30 rounds thru a GP6 last week at the range here in town.
It really was a remarkable gun. Very accurate, nice recoil, very short trigger reset, and the trigger pull itself was smooth.
My wife and I were so impressed that she is getting one for her CC gun.

 

[don95sml]

You might want to look at CZ again. If you are most interested in a short single action trigger pull, you would get that with a CZ 75B SA model, which is single action only. See it at www.cz-usa.com/ .