Suggestions for great S&W 'smiths; model 65 hop-up

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Hey all,

I’m looking for suggestions for someone good to slick up my Smith 65-3 (action job, DAO conversion, chamfer cylinders, radius/polish trigger, etc). My first choice was Grant Cunningham but, at this point, I’m open to ideas. Anyone here have experience with someone that they highly recommend for the job?

Thanks in advance!
 
action job, DAO conversion, chamfer cylinders, radius/polish trigger, etc

What's your primary use? SD? target? Combat action competition?

I had all the above done on my 686 by Mike Carmoney, a USPSA wheelgunner who does a lot of revolver work for other competitors. He does great work with a quick turnaround. If it's a SD revolver, tell him reliability is important and I'm sure he'd be able to accomodate. I'm attaching a pic of my 686.

The link at the below includes some other names. There are many other 'smith options, and there's probably a decent 'smith locally if you check out a local match.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=363944&highlight=gunsmith

Carmonized S&W 686.
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i can highly recommend Randy Lee of Apex Tactical.

Randy can do things with the action of a 627 that i didn't think was possible...and i used to shoot PPC. he has completly reengineered the hammer/sear relationship.

he is well represented in ICORE competition and the S&W PC guys hate it when he sets up close to their table bacause they can't get their actions close to what he can do...and maintain reliable ignition
 
The OPs title asks for "great" 'smiths, while he later asks merely for "good" 'smiths. I gotta ask, then, how "good" is "good"? How long are you willing to wait? What will you be using this gun for?

I got the impression that the OP wanted some Cunningham alternatives because of Grant's long wait list and turnaround time. I've read all good things about Randy Lee, and his incredible work, but I also understand his wait time is very long as well.

If you want "great", IMO, wait for Cunningham or Randy Lee. FWIW, Grant also recommends Cylinder & Slide (http://www.cylinder-slide.com/). Don't know about their wait time.

There are number of good and very good 'smiths working on S&W revolvers. Maybe some of these are "great", too. Dunno. I'd say Carmoney is among these. From what I've read of the others listed in my link above (Almeda & Hartshorn), their customers found them to be very very good or better.

I really like my Carmonized 686, and it does what it's supposed to do. I use the 686 for combat action type shooting, and tend to shoot the snot out of it. I bought it new, had it Carmonized, and use it hard. If it breaks, it breaks. I'll get it fixed. I waited about 1 week for that action job, and Carmoney's work was very good, and perfect for that revolver.

I also have a Cunningham-tuned 1951 K-22 Target Masterpiece. The action is better. Much better. Maybe too subtle for anyone else to notice, but (and not taking anything from Carmoney) I notice it. I use the K-22 for informal target work. It's no safe queen, it gets shot a lot, but I don't use it nearly as hard as my 686, and I don't expect it to go out of time or need repair. It's an heirloom. I waited almost 2 years for that action job, and Cunningham's work was great and perfect for that revolver. I'll be sending him a matching target K-38 when my "slot" opens, whenever that'll be.
 
The OPs title asks for "great" 'smiths, while he later asks merely for "good" 'smiths. I gotta ask, then, how "good" is "good"? How long are you willing to wait? What will you be using this gun for?

I got the impression that the OP wanted some Cunningham alternatives because of Grant's long wait list and turnaround time.

Good questions and comments, sir; let me try to address them.
I am indeed looking for someone who is highly accomplished with revolvers, specifically–my idea is to finally reward myself with one of “those” guns: you know, the ones we see in the magazines and crave. I figure that I’m not going to be customizing everything in my collection, and I’d just like to have one really great carry piece. I’m not looking for a race gun.

Grant Cunningham looks to be at the top of the google list because his direction and take on all of this modification stuff is pretty similar to mine; I am a graduate of both LFI and a couple of schools that are LFI trained/affiliated/descendants, and therefore, a bit of a brainwashed mini-Mas.

;)

The back-story here is that, upon doing my web research, I decided to do what Cunningham’s site says and wait for him to open his list, and then give him a shot. I therefore bookmarked his site and checked it once a week religiously, for almost a calendar year (I know the dates exactly). Then, in late October, my best friend from college was killed in action by an RPG in Afghanistan; we buried him November 1st. Needless to say, this put a cloud over my November and I got away from dinking around on the web until I had leisure time after thanksgiving–at which point his window had both come (the 10th), and gone (the 24th). Such is life.

Nothing against Cunningham’s process at all, I actually think it’s pretty darn cool that a fellow can be so good at what he does, and be in such demand, that it’s actually that hard to get on the list for what’s essentially a high-end duty/carry revolver. And I have no problem whatsoever with long wait lists and turn around times for good people, so long as they are accurately noted before the transaction.

That much said, long waits and turnaround times only matter if you can get on the list in the first place! I mean, there’s just got to be another revolver ‘smith who can do a primo duty/carry/liability/pride-of-ownership artwork tune and refinish job that has a window longer than exactly 2 weeks a year to get on the list, fer pete’s sake!

Hence the post.

Again, I’m just looking to have one killer (for now) carry piece that can do double duty as a fun take-to-class gun. A 3-inch 65-3 should do the trick, assuming that I find an artisan that I see eye-to-eye with to turn it into a defensive Faberge egg…

I figure that some of the folks around here might have at one point or another had the same goal, and might have opinions on the matter.

I appreciate the input thus far, for sure!
 
Beyond those already mentioned, I would add another. I had an S&W tuned and refinished by APW/Cogan Custom Shop a while back. It was excellent work. They have now moved to Alabama from Florida, but still do great work.
 
assuming that I find an artisan that I see eye-to-eye with to turn it into a defensive Faberge egg…

How we forgot Hamilton Bowen, I'll not know. Bowen literally wrote the book. Even Cunningham listed him as a gunsmith he'd allow work on his own gun.

Again, I know nothing about his wait time, or, more germane, whether his list is even open.

http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/

http://grantcunningham.com/blog_files/aa82bf06718f2a870d354488a2c34d34-142.html

http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/CustomRevolver.htm
 
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