George Hill
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Browsing the C&R lists, I see these old Russian wheel guns chambered for 7.62 Nagant.
The guns look good. What about the round?
The guns look good. What about the round?
Tell me about the 7.62 Nagant cartridge out of those sweet C&R Nagant revolvers.
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Tamara
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Well, it's really hard to find, for one thing. The surplus stuff is pretty much dried up. OWS sometimes has Fiocchi in stock for ~$39/50 rounds.
In the gas-seal Nagant, the military load threw a 108gr bullet @ 1100ish ft/sec, for 290 ft/lbs. The Fiocchi stuf is considerably tamer, and uses a 98gr FMJ bullet.
Be warned: these guns have trigger pulls measured in metric tons, and accuracy seems to range from mediocre to execrable.
In the gas-seal Nagant, the military load threw a 108gr bullet @ 1100ish ft/sec, for 290 ft/lbs. The Fiocchi stuf is considerably tamer, and uses a 98gr FMJ bullet.
Be warned: these guns have trigger pulls measured in metric tons, and accuracy seems to range from mediocre to execrable.
Tamara
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Yes, but on mine it opens groups up to about 6" at seven yards.
Okiecruffler
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I read an article once on how to make new brass with some other cartridge, but I can't remember what it was. I want to say 32-20, but that can't be right.
Tamara
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According to the Big Book of Bullets (Cartridges of the World: the ultimate in bathroom reading! 
), brass can be made from .32-20.
), brass can be made from .32-20.Okiecruffler
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Well I'll be jiggered
I do remember some things. Just wait until I tell The Wife.
I do remember some things. Just wait until I tell The Wife.
George Hill
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Hmmm... so it's a true Curio. A collection piece and not a real shooter.
Shame. You can buy one of those revolvers for so cheap it makes it tempting.
Dang. Oh well.
Shame. You can buy one of those revolvers for so cheap it makes it tempting.
Dang. Oh well.
Tamara
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...and a relic, too. (Albeit an interesting one.)
It seemed to fill its intended purpose well: shooting fleeing conscripts in the back (as long as they were no more than 25 yards away...
)RON in PA
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If you go to Gunboards there is a page on these revolvers and discussions on the ammo problem. The easiest way to shoot these relics is to shoot 32 long in them. The cases bulge and the gas seal feature doesn't work because the 32 long is too short, but if you can get used to the horrible trigger pull accuracy is ok. 32 magnums work too. I suspect most people shot with this revolver were shot in the back of the neck as they were kneeling.
Interesting revolver because of their unique design and history.
One more thing: In the translation of the Soviet manual there is a section on field use and one of the commands is: "At the deserter, shoot."
Interesting revolver because of their unique design and history.
One more thing: In the translation of the Soviet manual there is a section on field use and one of the commands is: "At the deserter, shoot."
George Hill
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"At the deserter, shoot."
That would be funny, if it wasn't true.
That would be funny, if it wasn't true.
George Hill:
I think the going price for one of these is around $100.00, give or take. At most gun shows, dealers and pawn shops you can find a solid, if cosmetically distressed S&W model 10/.38 Special for around $150.00 or less. If you're looking for a shooter I'd suggest you look in that direction. Ammunition is relatively inexpensive and parts and accessories are easy to find.
I think the going price for one of these is around $100.00, give or take. At most gun shows, dealers and pawn shops you can find a solid, if cosmetically distressed S&W model 10/.38 Special for around $150.00 or less. If you're looking for a shooter I'd suggest you look in that direction. Ammunition is relatively inexpensive and parts and accessories are easy to find.
George Hill
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I know... A model 10 snubby is something I've been keeping an eye open for. The only problem is that out here, these things are going for 300 a pop even for the ugly ones. Last gunshow I was at had 3 or 4 of them... all for the same price of a used Glock 17.
Dave Markowitz
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Maybe, but compared with a Nagant, you'll make up the difference in the cheaper ammo cost.
Zorro
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YODA WAS A COMMUNIST?
Steve Smith
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Dillon was making some dies that made making the .32-30 brass into Nagant brass easier.
Freightman
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Bought a M10 a while back for $20 it was rusty but not pitted, took it apart cleaned it up cold blued it and sold it for $175 not a bad investment foe $20 + 2 hrs work.
It functioned great and I was tempted to keep but needed the money.
It functioned great and I was tempted to keep but needed the money.
Mike Irwin
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If you're shooting gas seal cases, figure on losing between 30 and 50 percent every time you pull the trigger. Neck split city.
RON in PA
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Just got a Graff Bros. catalog, they are advertising both loaded Fiocchi ammo($33 per 50) and empty brass.
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