The correct name for 30.06 ?

[Tirod]

So how did the X as in "inch caliber X mm" become "by?"

"I believe the seven six two by thirty nine is superior to any cartridge ever made!"

But the .30-30 - which has a dash in the nomenclature to distinguish the components, doesn't get used - "The thirty thirty is the same thing, great short range deer killer, but certainly not the end all be all."

The things we say . . .

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Why not delete the decimal point and say three thousand six. That how it's some time said by more knowlagable older hunters at the local gun shop up north here.

Those knowledgeable old hunters would be talking nonsense if they tried that down here. NOBODY would know what they were talking about.

 

[thebaldguy]

I've always spoke it as "thirty oh six". It's a .30 cal that was first made in 1906 (I say that as "nineteen oh six"). Made sense to me.

My Dad always pronounced it as "thirty ought six". A lot of folks say it that way as well.

 

[bobelk99]

A scale is a rule, a ruler is a King (Queen)

And I can't even use a file properly.

Ain't this a heck of a way to pass the time. There is no funner way to spend an evening, once you pass 100 (years). or at least it seems like a 100 sometimes.

 

[cougar1717]

Just realized that I've been saying "thirty odd six" for ten years now. Ignorance was bliss!

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Shockwave:

The fruit we call an "orange" was originally a "naranj" but linguistic patterning of "an naranj" eventually became "an orange" (suspected development, still hypothetical). This happened again probably because people were constantly saying things like, "In naught-6 we had a drought..." and the second 'n' was found superfluous, eventually giving "aught."

That's exactly what I was trying to say! After the 1900s, people who had lived in the 1900s (before 1910) would tell stories to the young'ens, which began with the line "Back in naught six [or naught five or...], ...", and over time, to the younger generations, who didn't refer to any of they decades which THEY had lived in with a "naught", didn't really how to spell this shorthand exactly since they didn't use it themselves, and they heard this orally/phonetically as "back in aught six", rather than "back in naught six", as you say, seemingly rendering 1 'N' out of two. The N on the end of in could't go away, but the N in naught could be eliminated easily. I suspect we are exactly right on this.

Now, think on this for a second, though.... really, the correct way to type this phrase out with numbers and symbols rather than words, should be:

.30-'6

NOT .30-'06 as we do, because the naught or aught stands for zero, in which case .30-'06 would really mean ".30-006, and we're not nearly close to year 19,006 YET! (though I wouldn't be surprised of some people are still shooting this cartridge 17,000 years into the future!)

 

[jimmyraythomason]

"Naught" became "aught" much the same way that "el lagarto" (Spanish for lizard) became "alligator". Say something often enough and if becomes standardized

 

[paducahrider]

Who Names These Things?

Howdy.
Just to show that every rule has exceptions, I give you the 38-40 Winchester Centerfire (WCF).
It's definitely not a .38 caliber, as it uses .401 (or thereabouts) bullets, and was not always loaded with 40 grains of powder, but many times only 38 grains.
By rights, this cartridge could (should) have been named the 40-38 Winchester Centerfire (WCF).
Marketing decisions sometimes overrule common sense.
Thanks for your time.

 

[Art Eatman]

I started in with the "oh-six" in 1950. Folks who were old-timers in 1950 sometimes referred to the cartridge as the "ought-six". In today's world, that usage is mostly nostalgia or a tad tongue-in-cheek. Maybe picked up from one of us old folks who picked it up from older old folks.

I dunno. In any serious discussion of loads and ballistics, I refer to it as the oh-six. Sorta playing games in casual chit-chat, I might refer to it as the ought-six...

I've never, ever, heard, "3-zero-zero-6".

LIke Lindy Cooper wrote, "There aren't many things that can't be fixed, with seven-hundred dollars and a thirty-ought-six."

 

[nitetrane98]

LIke Lindy Cooper wrote, "There aren't many things that can't be fixed, with seven-hundred dollars and a thirty-ought-six."

Art,
Thanks for attributing that quote to Lindy Cooper. I read that quote somewhere years ago but didn't recall what the dollar amount was. I kind of always took it as a testament to the versatility of the .30-'06 and the dollar amount was probably subject to inflation.
Dad's only deer rifle was a "30 aught six Enfield army rifle". It's what I learned to call the round and do so to this day.

 

[Tinpig]

And what we call "Tic-Tac-Toe" is still called "Noughts & Crosses" in England.

Tinpig

 

[scythefwd]

Aught is a term used commonly in guns. 00 buckshot is pronounced how? You see it very commonly used with regard to shot size.

That not suit your fancy... as a mechanic you sure have heard of 0000 (4 aught) steel wool right?

That said, who cares how who says it. It is the message, not the delivery. If you can't get past the delivery to the message, then you should just walk away, because communications isn't happening anyways.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Aught is a term used commonly in guns.

and electrical wire sizes and steel wool coarseness.

 

[Mike J]

Thx adobewalls- I hadn't seen that in a really long time.

 

[BudW]

ought x ought = ought

 

[Vern Humphrey]

By rights, this cartridge could (should) have been named the 40-38 Winchester Centerfire (WCF).

Actually, it was officially named the ".38 Winchester Centeral Fire (WCF)." The moniker ".38-40" was bestowed on it by the public, not by Winchester.