California has been public since CBS v. Block in 1986.
Massachusetts is private, so is Delaware, so is Rhode Island.
Massachusetts is private, so is Delaware, so is Rhode Island.
These morons just don't get it.
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There is no legitimate need for this information being public.
I mean, so what if you could find out if your enemy had a concealed carry license. If you had an enemy who was considering KILLING YOU, and he didn't have a CCW permit, don't you think he might still bring a gun to use to kill you? The only difference would be he didn't have a permit to carry it. Big whoop. That wouldn't save you.
In other words, if you checked the list and found he did not have a CCW permit, would you really rest easy "knowing" that he could not come after you with a gun at all? Of course not: that notion is absurd. All you would know is that when he came after you with a gun, in addition to killing you, he'd be exposed to a charge of illegal possession of a firearm (during the commission of murder)! Big whoop. Like a murderer is really worried about that.
Just what are these list advocates thinking will make the public safer about having a published list of CCW holders?
"Hey, here's a list of people who have clean backgrounds. Talk about suspicious! Better watch out for them! I mean, who knows what kind of evil stuff the cleanest of the clean might get up to!"
Can you believe this? These people are actually coming out in public expressing worry about people who have gone out of their own way to get vetted by the FBI, fingerprinted, photographed...!!!! *** is wrong with these idiots?! They are actually making it seem like CCW licensees are more of a threat to the fabric of society than all the criminals running around who could never pass a CCW background check!
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I see all this as a big non-issue. While I agree with the sentiments expressed here, esp. Art and Peaceful, it's just not a big deal either way.
IMO it's only interesting for may-issue states, for reasons already stated.
We now have CCW here in MO and I teach classes. In MO the info is private. Many of my students get FL permits instead as FL permits are good in more states and cheaper. FL is NOT private. Who cares? You might get unsolicited mail from a holster company that bought the list, but the idea that thieves would use the list to target houses seems ludicrous, given that over half the households in the US have guns in them. I'd think that the CCW list would be an "avoid" list to criminals.
All that said, I support my friend Suzanna Hupp in her efforts, I just don't care if people know I hold a CCW.
Then again, since I advertise CCW classes on TV, there's not too much question...
JR
IMO it's only interesting for may-issue states, for reasons already stated.
We now have CCW here in MO and I teach classes. In MO the info is private. Many of my students get FL permits instead as FL permits are good in more states and cheaper. FL is NOT private. Who cares? You might get unsolicited mail from a holster company that bought the list, but the idea that thieves would use the list to target houses seems ludicrous, given that over half the households in the US have guns in them. I'd think that the CCW list would be an "avoid" list to criminals.
All that said, I support my friend Suzanna Hupp in her efforts, I just don't care if people know I hold a CCW.
Then again, since I advertise CCW classes on TV, there's not too much question...
JR
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