This website "suggests" gun death rates are lowest where gun laws are stricter.

[Carl N. Brown]

... The rate of deaths due to justifiable shootings needs to be in its own.

The only jurisdiction I have heard of, that actually bothers to track homicides through the judicial system, and removes justifiable homicides from the homicide/murder stats as cases are adjudicated (often years after they entered the annual crime reports as homicide/murders), is England and Wales. Every other jurisdiction you are comparing apples, to oranges, to tangerines, to olives, etc. FBI relies on police reports coding homicdes as 09 believed to be justifiable and I honestly do not think all police jurisdictions use the the FBI code for what is actually a call by the courts, not the police.

 

[hso]

The FBI parses murder from suicides and justifiable homicides. 17,813 murders were reported in 2020. While imperfect, the DOJ/FBI data are the most reliable of any collected data.

Murder data is close to the bottom of the page and parsed by weapon- https://crime-data-explorer.fr.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/shr

Data by state is here - https://crime-data-explorer.fr.cloud.gov/pages/downloads

 

[Gun4Fun90]

So this has just turned into a thread about arguing about facts…. Was interesting at first but it’s devolved into a back in forth of… I am right no I am right…. So I am gonna leave this thread now goodbye.

 

[jmorris]

The number of drowning deaths in private pools is higher in hot climate areas with more private pools. Ban private pools.

100% of auto, plane and boat related fatalities are preventable. We just need to get rid of them, for the children…

If death avoidance is the primary concern, why has no one taken the increase in suicide rate vs the lock downs into account?

Rhetorical question, we know that both are more about control than saving life.