Three of us were shot at today!!

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clarkford

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There is stupidity on both sides of this story. Ours is that we assumed we were safe, theirs is that they were shooting on the wrong side. Both is that we all thought we were alone.

My father-in-law and I routinely go shooting once a week at a burm in the middle of nowhere. We like it there, it is far away from traffic, at least 5 miles from a paved road, nice and quiet, and a fun place to shoot. We have scoped this burm before, which is about 15 feet high and 100 yards long,and there is only one road leading to it, and desert behind it. There is junk there and signs that other people shoot there as well. ON THIS SIDE!

We took his daughter today (14) so she can catch up on her shooting. We all get there, set up the clay pigeons on the bank of the burm, and drive back to where we measured 100 yards. We parked our trucks parallel to the burm so we could shoot off of our hoods. My truck was about eight feet behind the rear of his truck. We get all set up and start shooting. About ten minutes later we hear gunshots. Dan and I took off our earplugs so we can tell where it is coming from. Sure enough, the other side of the burm. We cussed to each other about how stupid people are to set up on the other side while others are already shooting. We put down our rifles, getting ready to go and tell the others that we are over here. Not one minute had passed since we heard the first shot when I noticed two puffs of dirt between the trucks puff up. I yelled at Dan to get behind his truck because there are ricochets heading at us. There were about eight more shots whining and whirring between the trucks, at least that is what is sounded like. What are the odds that nobody got hurt(thank God) and the trucks didnt get hit? When there was a pause Dan shot the ground in front of us with his .38 so they can hear us, and we all started yelling "stop shooting, there are people here!!" I was steamed, got in my truck and headed to the side of the burm where I could loop around. When I turn the corner, I see this guy throw his rifle in the backseat of his truck, jump in and take off. Apparently, the guy drove across the desert from somewhere else (another dirt road maybe), saw the burm and decided it was a good place to shoot.

I get back and tell Dan and Lisa the guy took off. We all nervously laughed to each other about what happened, made jokes that this is the closest thing to combat we will be, etc. We continued our day after a few moments to gather ourselves.

Now what gets me is that we were shooting quite a while before we heard their gunshots. It is our fault we didn`t make sure nobody was there but c`mon, there is no road, nothing to shoot at on that side,(the guy set up a target), and no signs that people go on that side. But how stupid do you have to be to set up on the other side, when there are people ALREADY shooting, and then you commence to shoot? There are a lot of "if`s and`s, or but`s" going through my head but I just wanted to lay it down on the forums for now. All in all, this situation could have been avoided.
 
Shot at? Or were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and were shot near...

Not quite as idiotic as the motorcycle boys who were running cross country, and tried to cut through our club. Ignoring all the signage...
 
I am thinking shot near. My late father and I were plinking one day and we were shot near. We basically yelled we were leaving but would shoot back if we heard one more shot. It turned out we were a little too close to someones illegal cash crop in SE Ohio. We were informed of this by a waitress at the local resturant. Who knew? It was supposed to be my fathers friends land:confused:
 
So it sounds like you were not responsible enough to make sure that nobody else was on the other side. He already had a target setup and everything and was shooting.

How do you know that they were on the wrong side? You dont.
 
I am glad that you and the young ones are allright

seems like you need to find a safer place, or maybe get some of that yellow tape the police use to keep folks out of crime scenes and mark off a safe area before you shoot.

I think the guy that left realized he was wrong and instead of apologizing he ran away.
 
I've seen idiots on horseback ride along the top of the berm at our range. While 4 of us were shooting. They stopped in the middle of the row of targets to look at us!!. Then a few minutes later rode back the other way!!!! We halfway expected them to call the cops on us.
 
Thats one thing the hills around here are good for. I never had to worry about any of this crap. :p
 
My Granddad knew a guy with a really nice homebrew firing range on his property. It butted up against a fairly good (60ft) hill and he posted a half circle perimiter of big 4ft x 4ft yellow signs at the top with big black lettering that said something to the effect of "Private Property -DANGER LIVE FIRING RANGE- Do not pass this perimeter. Airhorn sound indicates shooting will begin in 1 minute."

So we'd go out, blow the airhorn-on-a-can a few times and then go set up our targets to use up the warning time. Back to the firing line, blow airhorn-on-a-can again and wait, then commence firing.

Even with all of that we STILL had this screaming couple come flying down the hill one time AFTER we'd commenced shooting. Apparently they didn't think the signs and warnings applied to lovers trespassing on private property.

Would have given 'em a Darwin award if it had existed back then.
 
Bad related memory

This reminds me of something that happened to me probably around when I was 9 or so .. so about 21 years ago, possibly more. My mother, uncle, cousin and I were riding our bicycles through some deep woodsy trails. I seem to recall it was a terrible idea to go the way we had, and we were carrying or pushing our bikes far more than riding. At some point, all of a sudden we heard shooting which seemed to be nearby, although we couldn't see anyone. It became incredibly scary when we became aware that the bullets were actually in the air around us.. I kid you not folks. I personally DID see a tree quite near us lose some bark. It was what I would now call distinct multiple firearm slow rapid rifle fire. We didn't know what was going on, and keep in mind I was pretty young here. I do recall yelling that we were there and to stop firing with no results, but to be honest, I don't much remember what we did exactly other than high tail it away from there keeping low as best we could. As far as I knew we never did find out whether we were behind someones range, whether someone was trying to scare us, or whether someone was actually shooting at us. I hadn't thought about that in a long time till seeing this post. Scary.
Since it seemed like distant rifle fire though, I imagine we got behind someones range.. at long range.. someone who very stupidly was shooting without a proper backstop into the open woods. We were lucky to get out of that unharmed.
 
It seems to me that both parties have an equal responsibility to see what's on the other side of the berm, or anything else down range. You state he was on the wrong side, he might say the same thing. Guess it depends which side you're standing on. Accidents often happen due to someone making such assumptions. OTOH, if your party was already engaged in live fire, it's hard to imagine anyone not checking it's source before getting too comfortable in their shooting activities.
 
ricochets can be pretty inpredictable, glad nobody got hurt. Just this weekend i was clipped in the arm by a ricochet from a .380cal pistol a fellow was firing just down the line from me -- shoulder to shoulder! Hit hard enough to draw blood and incite an 'ah!' from me
 
I am confused. If it is a 15 foot tall berm, then how were his bullets getting to you?

I agree that something does not make sense here. You are describing "plunging fire", which is a tactic employed with machine guns. Plunging fire, however, is normally done from considerable distances (hundreds of yards) with rifle cartridges that machine guns normally fire.

This makes me think that the person shooting at you would have had to have been several hundred yards from the berm on the other side, or have been firing up into the air at an extreme elevation from fairly close to the berm.
 
Or maybe he was actually firing at them from the burm, when he saw them approaching headed to his car and they only saw him when he was at his vehicle.
 
Or maybe he was actually firing at them from the burm, when he saw them approaching headed to his car and they only saw him when he was at his vehicle.

That's a possibility--a very gutsy move, though.

BTW, it's a B-E-R-M, not a b-u-r-m.
 
A comedy of errors. Thts the best i can describe your shooting incident. However my own experience with being shot at would be of some useful benefit here.

It was suggested to put out lots of yellow police tape to warn people away, but that doesnt always work. A few years back i was coming back for lunch and a very vital bathroom break from muzzlelaoding season.

I was bringing my 6 foot tall, 220 some pound carcass home, someone on the adjoining property decided to start shooting at me with a semi auto 10 shot 22. Sure i was in a solid hunter orange coat, in broad daylight, in a 30 foot clearing on top of a small rise, someone within a 100 yards decided to start shooting at me.
Stupidly I just stood there for 3 or 4 rounds to hit the ground trying to figure out where the bulelts were coming from. But when the bullets started impacting within 10 feet of me i just skedaddled down hill.
 
BTW, it's a B-E-R-M, not a b-u-r-m.
Yes that would be my mistake, just my other hobby intruding into this one, I often see the word burm as it refers to Burmese Pythons. Whoops...
 
Wow man, that sounds like it really sucked, esp with the young one(s?) around.

All I can say is I hope it was a mistake, and not an assuault FRoM the BURM :p
 
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