US to Alaska w/arms??

[KodiakBeer]

jdh mentioned it in post #9, but the smart solution is to put your guns in your car, and put your car on the ferry in Bellingham and drive them off in Whittier, Alaska.

The cruise up the inside passage is breathtaking and with the price of gas this year, hotels, etc, the price is competitive with driving.

http://www.dot.state.ak.us/amhs/index.shtml

 

[Steve H]

Avoid Canada, take the ferry.

Have you check the price of the ferry lately?????? NOT cheap. I have a buddy that is in Alaska right now. He was thinking about taking the ferry back until he was told the price. $6000 for him, his wife, pick up & 5th wheel.

 

[KodiakBeer]

I just checked, and from Bellingham to Whittier the vehicle fares start at $1,247. A cabin (sleeps up to 4) is about $800. You don't have to rent a cabin, you can rough it with sleeping bags in one of the areas set aside for this - it's just like camping, but with flush toilets and hot showers down the hall. The driver rides for free most of the year. Kids under six are free. Kids 6 to 12 are half fare.

So, anyway, with the price of gas and hotels (not to mention the convenience of avoiding the nutty Canadian border cops), it's well worth looking at.

 

[84B20]

Ummm..... no.

Ummm.....no, yourself. I'm talking about transporting a handgun through Canada, not bringing it into and staying in the country. If you call the number I posted and say you are just passing through they will tell you what firearms can be transported and the woman I talked to this morning said my Ruger Redhawk and my 1911 can be brought through, although it also depends on the territory you go through. The extension I posted is for BC and I didn't leave a message as requested for a call back so I don't know for sure that they will allow them. I did check a few months ago and am under the impression they would allow my guns, again as a pass through only.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Ummm.....no, yourself. I'm talking about transporting a handgun through Canada, not bringing it into and staying in the country. If you call the number I posted and say you are just passing through they will tell you what firearms can be transported and the woman I talked to this morning said my Ruger Redhawk and my 1911 can be brought through, although it also depends on the territory you go through. The extension I posted is for BC and I didn't leave a message as requested for a call back so I don't know for sure that they will allow them. I did check a few months ago and am under the impression they would allow my guns, again as a pass through only.

Let me try to break it down for you so maybe others can understand it, if you can't.

According to Canadian law, which overrides and supercedes any territorial laws, your 1911 and Ruger Redhawk are RESTRICTED FIREARMS according to Canadian Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46):
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/FullText.html#h-38

“restricted firearm” means

(a) a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,

In order to transport you "restricted firearms" through Canada you must first obtain authorization to transport from the chief firearms officer according to the Canadian Firearms Act:
Firearms Act (S.C. 1995, c. 39):
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/FullText.html

17. Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of the registration certificate for which is an individual, may be possessed only at the dwelling-house of the individual, as recorded in the Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized by a chief firearms officer.
19. (3) A non-resident may be authorized to transport a particular restricted firearm between specified places in accordance with sections 35 and 35.1.

Then, at the border you must declare your "restricted firearms" including presenting to customs your "authority to transport" that you previously obtained:
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/FullText.html

35. (1) A non-resident who does not hold a licence may import a firearm that is not a prohibited firearm if, at the time of the importation,

(a) the non-resident

(i) is eighteen years old or older,

(ii) declares the firearm to a customs officer in the prescribed manner and, in the case of a declaration in writing, completes the prescribed form containing the prescribed information, and

(iii) in the case of a restricted firearm, produces an authorization to transport the restricted firearm; and

(b) a customs officer confirms in the prescribed manner the declaration referred to in subparagraph (a)(ii) and the authorization to transport referred to in subparagraph (a)(iii).

Non-compliance

(2) Where a firearm is declared at a customs office to a customs officer but the requirements of subparagraphs (1)(a)(ii) and (iii) are not complied with, the customs officer may authorize the firearm to be exported from that customs office or may detain the firearm and give the non-resident a reasonable time to comply with those requirements.

Disposal of firearm

(3) Where those requirements are not complied with within a reasonable time and the firearm is not exported, the firearm shall be disposed of in the prescribed manner.

When you exit Canada on the other side you must comply with this:

37. (1) A non-resident who does not hold a licence may export a firearm that is not a prohibited firearm and that was imported by the non-resident in accordance with section 35 if, at the time of the exportation,

(a) the non-resident

(i) declares the firearm to a customs officer, and

(ii) produces to a customs officer in the prescribed manner the declaration and, where applicable, the authorization to transport that were confirmed in accordance with that section; and

(b) a customs officer confirms the declaration referred to in subparagraph (a)(i) in the prescribed manner.

Non-compliance

(2) Where a firearm is declared to a customs officer but the requirements of subparagraph (1)(a)(ii) are not complied with, the customs officer may detain the firearm and, with the approval of a chief firearms officer, give the non-resident a reasonable time to comply with those requirements.

Disposal of firearm

(3) Where those requirements are not complied with within a reasonable time, the firearm shall be disposed of in the prescribed manner.

So, 84B20, when you get to the Canadian border, I hope you have the lady's name that you talked to on the phone, because if you don't have the "authorization to transport" from the chief firearms officer, at the very least they are going to tell you to leave your "restricted firearms" on the US side of the border.

It's up to you though.

 

[84B20]

Let me try to break it down for you so maybe others can understand it, if you can't.

You obviously are not understanding what I'm saying. I never said you could just bring a firearm that is on the restricted list without first obtaining the written permit and paying the fee, small as it is. Please do not presume that I don't know what I'm talking about. The two firearms I plan on taking are approved with the written permit, they are restricted not forbidden.

 

[Sheepdog1968]

I just made this myself, so no copyright. Help yourself.

Given your run in with a brown bear, I'm surpirsed there isn't a skiined brown bear somewhere on the note.

 

[NavyLCDR]

You obviously are not understanding what I'm saying. I never said you could just bring a firearm that is on the restricted list without first obtaining the written permit and paying the fee, small as it is. Please do not presume that I don't know what I'm talking about. The two firearms I plan on taking are approved with the written permit, they are restricted not forbidden.

Than that is what you should have originally posted instead of this in post #23:

Not true. You can bring handguns through Canada if they are not on their restricted list. I have been planning a trip to Alaska and called the RCMP to verify that the two handguns I want to take are approved, my Ruger Redhawk and my 1911. For more info call the RCMP at 800-731-4000 and if they are entering Canada through British Columbia you need to get their approval, just enter extension 9512.

Since you used the term "not on their restricted list", one could assume that you meant your two handguns were not "restricted firearms".

 

[84B20]

Than that is what you should have originally posted instead of this in post #23:



Since you used the term "not on their restricted list", one could assume that you meant your two handguns were not "restricted firearms".

I guess I could have been more explicit. Sorry for the confusion, at least we got it clarified. This is what happens when Army and Navy correspond.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I apologize for the misunderstanding on my part.

 

[84B20]

I apologize for the misunderstanding on my part.

No apology necessary.

 

[KodiakBeer]

I'd like to apologize also.

 

[84B20]

I'd like to apologize also.

And so you should.

I hope this isn't going to be some kind of love fest.

 

[Killermonkey21]

Just fly them or ship them. I took a plastic tote *literally* full of firearms when I moved from Fort Lewis, WA to Anchorage, AK. Seriously. I had 2 bolt action rifles, 1 AK, a 10/22, a revolver, and 3 semi autos. I got there a bit early, declared them, and let TSA swab my guns and then I locked them. Picked em up on the other side. They DID cut two of my locks to "inspect" my totes that had ammo in them, but otherwise it was fine.

Flew from SEA-TAC to Anchorage, AK on June 26, and except for the incompetent TSA guards, no biggie. Oh, and we had a 17 pound cat with us too. All good.

 

[Sam1911]

Good to see gentlemen reach an accord and step back from an argument. Wish misunderstandings would all resolve themselves so pleasantly.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Yeah, it's pretty important to make sure your ducks are in a row when crossing the boarder. I lost my issued Benchmade cause the Canadian Board Guard knew what it was and what I was.

Like I said, good friend of mine lost all his firearms, including those passed down to him from his grandpa and great grandpa.

 

[SeekHer]

Guys come up all the time to participate in handgun matches but they are coming for a specific event and have all their paperwork in order before getting to the border or Canadian aeroport.

They just pay their import fee at the border and leave.

Please note, that authority to transport is a one time affair...If you go to Alaska and come back via Canada you require a separate authorization for that new event and it can be done up at the same time as the original if you know your dates.