What is today's analog to Pre-64 Model 70

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Ruger #1? Today's equivalent are the current Winchesters being made that have gone back to the claw extractor that was the Pre-'64's signature feature.

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Ruger #1? Today's equivalent are the current Winchesters being made that have gone back to the claw extractor that was the Pre-'64's signature feature.

Don
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Rugers been making that rifle since Winchester forgot how in the 60's and long before they seemingly recently remembered under yet another owner.


I don't think the op is far off the mark in that if the no1 went out of production (God forbid) the outcry, lamenting instant price increase would be similar. Heck even though they still make em they're kinda that way now. I don't know how many used no1's I've seen priced more than new because of some preceved collectability
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Is the attraction to the Ruger No. 1 simply aesthetic or is there something else? Most of the models listed are in chamberings widely available in bolt and lever action repeaters. At the price they're charging you can get an excellent repeating rifle that is the same weight or lighter, so I guess it must just be aesthetics.
 
I am thinking "equivalent" in terms of being the next cult rifle.
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The "cult" of the Ruger #1? :D The Winchester Model 70 in it's day was extensively written about, praised, and carried by 10's of thousands of sportsmen. I don't believe there's ever been enough demand for single shot rifles to even qualify it for cult status. Same goes for pump action rifles. We pretty much went from lever action rifles to bolt action rifles, and have remained there to this day. Just MHO.

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I don't think there is a current equivalent? The pre-64 model 70 was a hand fitted rifle made by a lot of skilled workers on old tooling by a company that had "won the west" and a lot of 1950's TV shows to boot. And you had Jack O'Connor and others singing the praises of the rifle.

Take away the century long reputation for the company and introduce the same rifle today made by Miroku or H&K or somebody and it would be just another good hunting rifle. There are folks right here in the US that are making clones of the Model 70 and it is selling, but not by the 10 of thousands. These folks are trying to sell the sizzle that was the reputation of the Model 70, but without all the hype and the TV shows extolling the Model 94, 73, etc. - there is no way to make it happen.

There are good bolt actions with three position wing safeties and claw extractors on the market. Most will out shoot a box stock Model 70 from back in the day, but they won't out "cache" it. collectors stuff take a long time to become "cult". Then it only happens when there is no more being produced.
 
The appeal of the No. 1?

It has the grace and point-ability of a fine shotgun (there is a difference). No repeater that I own comes close (IMHO).

The action is only a couple of inches long. This makes the rifle shorter, and handier, than a bolt, or lever, or pump, or auto with the same barrel length.

The single shot tend to focus your attention to the shot at hand--you can make a quick follow up shot if you are well practiced. But if you are well practiced, you probably won't need to (Note: A No. 1 would NOT be my first choice for cape buffalo in the brush.).

So, yes, aesthetics is the reason. You don't buy a No. 1 as the low price option in a given chambering.
 
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The appeal of the No. 1?

It has the grace and point-ability of a fine shotgun (there is a difference). No repeater that I own comes close (IMHO).

The action is only a couple of inches long. This makes the rifle shorter, and handier, than a bolt, or lever, or pump, or auto with the same barrel length.

The single shot tend to focus your attention to the shot at hand--you can make a quick follow up shot if you are well practiced. But if you are well practiced, you probably won't need to (Note: A No. 1 would NOT be my first choice for cape buffalo in the brush.).

So, yes, aesthetics is the reason. You don't buy a No. 1 as the low price option in a given chambering.
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Thanks for the reply. So some people just prefer a single shot rifle and all that entails.
 
Don't know about cult or collectability. I want a #1 RSI in 7x57 to hunt with. I just want a nice looking, single shot rifle with iron sights chambered for the best all around hunting round yet.
 
My Win 70 Extreme Weather is an exemplary model of the CRF Win. I'm waiting to see what new calibers Winchester is going to introduce in 2012, but, lacking new stuff, there's a .375 H&H Magnum in my future.

My first choice is .35 Whelen (I doubt it), a 9.3x62 (I doubt it) or a 7x57 or 6.5x55 (I doubt either).

I am staying tuned.

FH
 
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