WHat semi-auto rifles can I own in NJ?
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S4Lee
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The Colt AR-15 is specifically banned, but you can buy a clone. Basically, it's OK as long as you don't have 2 or more items such as:
Pistol Grip
Flash suppressor (though 'compensators' are ok)
Collapsable stock
Bayonette lug
Oh, and no >15 rd mags.
Go to a NJ FFL dealer and see what they have. There are a couple of Bushmaster models that are NJ legal, as is the S&W M&P15FT, and a bunch of others, though here in North Jersey these seem to be the prevailing brands (though I think I've also seen DPMS in one or two shops).
Pistol Grip
Flash suppressor (though 'compensators' are ok)
Collapsable stock
Bayonette lug
Oh, and no >15 rd mags.
Go to a NJ FFL dealer and see what they have. There are a couple of Bushmaster models that are NJ legal, as is the S&W M&P15FT, and a bunch of others, though here in North Jersey these seem to be the prevailing brands (though I think I've also seen DPMS in one or two shops).
bogie
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Just buy anything you like - concealed is concealed.
Tom488
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Right... of course, that telescoping stock on an AR-15 will now land you 5-10 years in state prison.
Magic_Man: yes, you'll be legal with a receiver that is NOT marked "AR-15" or "CAR-15", a fixed stock, and either a target crown barrel, or a barrel with a permanently installed (pinned/welded - to ATF standards) compensator or muzzle brake (but no flash suppressor). It it can un-thread, then you have a threaded barrel, which is another no-no.
And yeah, no bayonet lug (them things'll kill ya), and no grenade launcher. I'm not kidding... it says that in the AG directives.
This is the latest that we have to go on (and, by latest, I mean almost 12 years old): Assault Firearms Guidelines
bogie
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It won't in Texas. And I've been told that Texas is the ultimate authority.
Concealed is concealed.
Concealed is concealed.
Harley Quinn
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Magic_Man,
This is a good article. They have one called the CA model. I have it. They made it for locations like where you live. It is legal in CA. Not an AR though.
http://www.equipped.org/Kel-Tec_SU-16_Review.htm
This is a good article. They have one called the CA model. I have it. They made it for locations like where you live. It is legal in CA. Not an AR though.
http://www.equipped.org/Kel-Tec_SU-16_Review.htm
Harley Quinn
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I like it for what is was made for, shoots the .223 and military 5.56 has a good twist but the best bullet for that gun would be it he 55 grn area IMHO.
I gave you the door now go in and see what you can find out about it. Good luck.
http://www.cabelas.com/spodw-1/0022901.shtml
"Your choice of 55-grain full-metal-jacket or soft-point bullets. They're fast, accurate and have low recoil".
I gave you the door now go in and see what you can find out about it. Good luck.
http://www.cabelas.com/spodw-1/0022901.shtml
"Your choice of 55-grain full-metal-jacket or soft-point bullets. They're fast, accurate and have low recoil".
csmkersh
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bogie said:
Why don't you give it a rest, bogie. You're being childish and that's not Highroad.
Crunker1337
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I'm not quite sure where you're getting this information from. But it's not really true.
Tom488
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What part of what he posted isn't true?
The Colt AR-15 is banned by name. The rest of what he mentioned (features of other semi-autos, ie. pistol grip, flash hider, etc.) fall under the "substantially identical" portion of the law, which, as defined by the then-AG, include the above-listed features.
DontBurnMyFlag
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Ok, here are guns Ive seen in NJ gun stores that are legal for NJ gun owners. There are some loopholes that allow such clones as the AK47, FAL, and G3 to be sold.
AR clones - Bushmaster XM15, Colt Sporter, etc
AK clones - WASR with the 10 rds and thumbhole stock
FAL - Some version of a plain ole FAL
G3 - IIRC it was a PT91 or some model to that extent
you can of course own
Saigas (rifles only) - no detachable mags on semi-autos i believe or pistol grip
M1A - socom 16 etc
m1 garands
sks with non detachable mag
theres plenty more
check Butch's Gun World in Vineland off rt55 south. Its by far the best collection Ive seen as far as semi autos and black rifles. woo!
AR clones - Bushmaster XM15, Colt Sporter, etc
AK clones - WASR with the 10 rds and thumbhole stock
FAL - Some version of a plain ole FAL
G3 - IIRC it was a PT91 or some model to that extent
you can of course own
Saigas (rifles only) - no detachable mags on semi-autos i believe or pistol grip
M1A - socom 16 etc
m1 garands
sks with non detachable mag
theres plenty more
check Butch's Gun World in Vineland off rt55 south. Its by far the best collection Ive seen as far as semi autos and black rifles. woo!
never_retreat
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You can own whatever you want.
Legally is a different story.
Crunker1337's list is correct. If you see something on the web you like just call a dealer in NJ and ask them how much the rifle would cost you. If they can't sell it you won't get a price. Simple
Legally is a different story.
Crunker1337's list is correct. If you see something on the web you like just call a dealer in NJ and ask them how much the rifle would cost you. If they can't sell it you won't get a price. Simple
csmkersh
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One semi missing from the list is the old Marlin Model 60 .22 semi-auto. Marlin had to shorten the tube to hold 2 or 3 less rounds to become come compliant.
Feud
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Just find a well trafficked store, walk inside and see what they are selling. Odds are it won't be illegal since few would be stupid enough to publicly display illegal wares.
geekWithA.45
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Tom488 is correct in general, Crunker1337 is correct in detail.
What I *suspect* is that Crunker1337 doesn't know that this part of the statute
was struck down in court for being unconstitutionally vague.
Well, it wasn't really struck down, its meaning was clarified. It doesn't mean "Any AR-15 esque rifle". If means any AR-15 rifle whose function is *substantially*identical* to a banned rifle.
If you don't have, for example, a bayonet lug, your rifle cannot host a bayonet, and therefore it is not functionally identical to a banned rifle that *can* host a bayonet.
In general, "post ban" form scary black rifles are NJ legal, which is why some manufacturers still make them.
As Tom488 linked, this AG memo is still the operative word in NJ:
http://www.state.nj.us/lps/dcj/agguide/assltf.htm
What I *suspect* is that Crunker1337 doesn't know that this part of the statute
was struck down in court for being unconstitutionally vague.
Well, it wasn't really struck down, its meaning was clarified. It doesn't mean "Any AR-15 esque rifle". If means any AR-15 rifle whose function is *substantially*identical* to a banned rifle.
If you don't have, for example, a bayonet lug, your rifle cannot host a bayonet, and therefore it is not functionally identical to a banned rifle that *can* host a bayonet.
In general, "post ban" form scary black rifles are NJ legal, which is why some manufacturers still make them.
As Tom488 linked, this AG memo is still the operative word in NJ:
http://www.state.nj.us/lps/dcj/agguide/assltf.htm
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Tom488
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It's not really missing from the list, as it's banned due to it's magazine capacity (2C:39-1w(4) - a semi-auto rifle with a mag. capacity exceeding 15 rounds).
Those two extra .22LR rounds are why a NJ man is now prohibited from ever possessing firearms again. Google 'Joseph Pelleteri' for all the gory details.
armabill
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Where's N.J. ?
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