What's The Best Way To Carry A Handgun On A Bike?

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Lets see here, lets do a bit of math:

Average mileage of an auto is probably around 25mpg now.
Tax here is right at a dollar a gallon. So car drivers pay four cents a mile for the use of the roads. License fees and drivers licenses are right up there also. Lets have all the damn cyclists pay four cents a mile to ride on our roads and make them license their stupid pedalmobiles and get cyclist licenses after passing tests. When that happens, I'll gladly extend them the same courtesy I would to any other driver or motorcycle rider. Until then, no f***ing way! Get outa my way, get off my property and don't give me any **** or this old man will rain all over your parade and make you wish you'd had a root canal planned instead.:)
 
Ah the falacy of thinking that gas taxes pay for roadways. Would you also charge pedestrians for crossing at cross walks? And just who pays for sidewalks? Start collecting children's lunch monies.:rolleyes:

The corelary (sp?) to this is to start charging smog fees to car drivers and give smog credits to cyclists and pedestrians for each mile commuted. Believe it or not, this concept has actually been debated and considered in some districts in some states.

YMMV. Have a nice day, play again soon, it was fun. :cool:
 
Marty, the world's tinest brass bell is ringing just for you ;-)

What amazes me is these drivers who STILL give me a hard time when I'm clearly carrying an enormous RIFLE on my bicycle. They certainly do trust in my inner goodness.
 
Reminds me of a movie, I think it was Quigley Down Under possibly.

Good guy stops horse and steps down and de-scabbards his rifle.
Nearby companion panics and starts to complain that the bad guy(s) is getting away.
Good guy just smiles, takes his time, takes carefull aim, bang, bad guy goes down.
Nearby companion doesn't say much.

Maybe it was in The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly.

Anyway, now I've got this sequence in my head and it will remain there until my next bicycle ride. Smile driver, just keep smiling in your mirror. ;)

Back on topic, I still like the idea of something not carried on the rider's body for on-bike carry yet still being relatively quick to detach or secure.
 
Fact is: cyclists don't "belong" on most of our current streets and roads one bit more than skate boards and motorboats belong there. Period.
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Lets see here, lets do a bit of math:

Average mileage of an auto is probably around 25mpg now.
Tax here is right at a dollar a gallon. So car drivers pay four cents a mile for the use of the roads. License fees and drivers licenses are right up there also. Lets have all the damn cyclists pay four cents a mile to ride on our roads and make them license their stupid pedalmobiles and get cyclist licenses after passing tests. When that happens, I'll gladly extend them the same courtesy I would to any other driver or motorcycle rider. Until then, no f***ing way! Get outa my way, get off my property and don't give me any **** or this old man will rain all over your parade and make you wish you'd had a root canal planned instead.
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Wow! Sounds like a couple of people here have missed their nap.:neener:

It also seems to me that the U.S. is one of the only nations in the world where motorists almost hate cyclists. That seems odd to me when you take into account all of the benefits of cycling. And, like I have said before, I now carry because people ignore leash laws and some people seem to think it is their lot in life to try and run me down just for sport. I can take all of the cussing you can give me, you can toss water on me as you pass, etc., but if you try to run me down (as I have had people do for no reason other than they were out looking for trouble) then I have a right to protect myself. When it gets to that point, a vehicle trying to run me down can be considered assualt with a deadly weapon. So, I leave with my Keltec P32 in my pocket or my 642 in my Smartcarry.

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I think the debate is very different for different communities.
In small mountain towns where I've lived, there were maybe 2 ways to get across town if you needed to do so. Having cyclists on both roads made them impassable. Which I thought was pretty self absorbed and showed very bad judgement on their part. People use roads to go places like work, appointments, and such. Bikes can really hold people up and be a pain.
But, in larger cities, it's not such a big deal because of road construction and such.

Whether there were people throwing slushies at me or hitting me with their fenders or not, I'd still carry.
And, it's likely I'd use a back holster for a large frame revolver. That way anyone going around could see it and it would be easy to reach. Or, I'd strap a pistol to the frame of the bike by fabricating some aluminum mounts.
 
In small mountain towns where I've lived, there were maybe 2 ways to get across town if you needed to do so. Having cyclists on both roads made them impassable. Which I thought was pretty self absorbed and showed very bad judgement on their part.
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How is it self absorbed if there are only two roads and if the bicycle rider wants to ride across town? And how exactly were they impassable? Couldn't you pass them????? And if the roads were that impassable then wouldn't the same self abosrbant logic be ascribed to someone driving a large RV across town or someone towing a trailer across town? I've lived in small mountain towns with narrow winding roads, you just deal with it and pass when you can safely do so. Expecting a cyclist to walk in the ditch everytime a car approaches is fairly self absorbed of the car driver. A little patience goes a long way.

Wisconsin has a pedestrian right of way rule, yet every week I see some pedestrian in a crosswalk nearly get run down and honked at by some impatient driver wanting to drive 35+mph in a 25mph zone.

This country is sorely lacking in consideration and respect for others, at least it seems that way at times.

Oh well, have a nice day anyway. Heading home shortly to wait for the storm that approaches. Maybe I'll use my Farm&Fleet gift cards to purchase a bag for the bike pistol this week. :scrutiny:
 
With all due respect, and no threat intended, as a motorcycle rider that averages over seven thousand miles a year, and carries: Don't even think of using a handgun for self defense when a cage driver decides to punch your ticket. Get the hell off the road. I've never seen a cyclist win a collision with a four wheeler, whether the collision was intentional or not, you, the cyclist get the dirty end of the stick and going head to head with motor vehicle makes little or no sense for a pedestrian and you aren't any better off than a jogger when it comes to defending yourself from being run down.
 
bike experience

Hey Millcreek

I stick to paved roads when on my bike and I ride alone most of the time. I had an unusual experience one day, I crested a hill and there was a big buck whitetail with a very nice rack. He saw me and put his head down and started towards me. U-turn was the better part of valor that day and luckily he wasn't interested in chasiing.
 
I used to have a part-time job driving a delivery truck for a local retailer. I'd ride my bike to work, load up the truck, strap my bike somewhere away from the cargo, deliver stuff all evening, then unload the bike and ride home. As a result, on any given evening I was by turns the biggest and smallest vehicle on the road. I frequently found it ironic that cars got just as annoyed at my slowness when I was in truck mode as when I was in bike mode, but were much more aggressive in the latter case. It seems to have come down to sheer size and the perception of risk: pure law of the jungle, on the streets and roads of Oregon ...
 
x2 on the Safepacker.

I also like to sing the praises of the Camelbak Goblin.....and oversized fanny pack that you can carry a hydration bladder in (which makes not raise any alarm) but with a tearaway to access a holstered firearm. I like mine alot, and use the Camelbak often.
 
Lets see here, lets do a bit of math:

Average mileage of an auto is probably around 25mpg now.
Tax here is right at a dollar a gallon. So car drivers pay four cents a mile for the use of the roads. License fees and drivers licenses are right up there also. Lets have all the damn cyclists pay four cents a mile to ride on our roads and make them license their stupid pedalmobiles and get cyclist licenses after passing tests. When that happens, I'll gladly extend them the same courtesy I would to any other driver or motorcycle rider. Until then, no f***ing way! Get outa my way, get off my property and don't give me any **** or this old man will rain all over your parade and make you wish you'd had a root canal planned instead.
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Someone like this shouldn't be allowed to drive or carry a gun.
 
Some of the attitudes toward cyclists on here have proven much better than I could, that not only do I carry while biking, I need to carry.:rolleyes:

Talk about low road on The High Road

A cop drove next to me for a few seconds and remarked that with the lights and my safety vest, he wished "all cyclists were as visible" as me.
 
I'm surprised by the amount of hatred tossed at we who ride bicycles. I'm used to it when I mention I ride motorcycles. I've always figured that's some sort of hangover from the Hells Angels mythology but bicycles? How can these motorists be angry at bicyclists? If there ever was a peaceful non-threatening bunch of sprout munchers, it's wheelmen.

I'm only glad that in my area I've only personally encountered courtesy but we've had some actions on the part of motorists which were negligent to the point of being aggressive. What's troubling to me and some others is that the LEO's take the attitude when one of us is killed of, "What did you expect if you ride a bicycle on public roads?"

They do in all but one case where a police was killed. That stirred them up for that one case.
 
I'm surprised by the amount of hatred tossed at we who ride bicycles. I'm used to it when I mention I ride motorcycles. I've always figured that's some sort of hangover from the Hells Angels mythology but bicycles? How can these motorists be angry at bicyclists? If there ever was a peaceful non-threatening bunch of sprout munchers, it's wheelmen.
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I long ago learned that people who spend all they make and go into debt really resent those who save and invest. Those who didn't serve in the military -- especially in wartime -- resent those who did. Those who didn't go to college resent those who did -- especially those who worked their way through. And those who don't exercise resent those who do.
 
Maybe you are on to something here, Vern. The anecdotes I've heard from wheelmen who have had incidents with autos seem to stem from cagers' frustrations. Frex, a huge traffic jam with a bicycle threading through can trigger a car driver to attack the bike to prevent him from proceeding where the car can't.

As to the military, the mom of one of my daughter's friends was impressed (not entirely to the positive) by her gardener. This guy dressed in fatigues and carried a huge bayonet at his waist. She wondered to me what he did in the military and I said, "He wasn't in". She asked and, of course, I was right.

You ever notice how fierce those who've never seen action seem to often carry themselves?
 
And just this very morning, I read elsewhere on the site of the new .380 pistol from Ruger announced at the Shot Show. Within just a smidgen of the size and weight of the Kel-Tec .380, but with a locked breech design. MSRP of $ 330 in blued. If they come out with this in stainless, I would have to give serious thought to this as a new bicycle pistol.
 
mpmarty, you may not be as anonymous on the web as you think, and should you strike a cyclist in the future, you had better hope no DA or plaintiff's council sees your post about raining on a cyclist's parade. Intent is the key to prosecution, and you just stated it very publicly. Edited to add: Is this THR, or TLR? Advocating the commission of a felony sounds pretty low to me.
 
Used to be an avid "roadie" cyclist - averaging a couple of hundred miles per week.

That was MANY years (and MANY pounds ago). At 52 I'm just now attempting to re-establish enough of a health baseline to hopefully start riding again. I've seen it all in my years peering over the handlebars. As a cyclist, I was more mindful of rules of the road. I was also more aware of the tons of trash that Americans mindlessly throw to the curb. These bottles and cans become more than trivial obstacles when your riding skinny tires.

As a licensed concealed-carrier I will not shelve my right of self defense just because I'm on a bicycle on the road. The intent of carrying is to have the means to defend one's self if the need arises. It is just as apt to arise on a bicycle as it is anywhere else. Shawnee seems to think it is MORE apt to arise. Taking a position that we should or should not carry based upon the likelihood of an angry situation escalating into a shooting spree very unwittingly plays into the hands of the anti's. It is PRECISELY THE SAME ARGUEMENT THEY MAKE AGAINST ALL CONCEAL-CARRY. "There will be blood in the streets at every road-rage incident", blah, blah, blah... :rolleyes:

I am no less protected by the 2nd Amendment on my bicycle than I am in my car. The same rights apply. If Shawnee, the interface between cyclist and the average motorist are as dire as you portray, then I would argue we have MORE need for a firearm when riding. I have been found mentally competent by my state to carry in concealed fashion and I don't check that competency at the door when I climb onto a bicycle.

NOW, all that being said...

Having survived more than my share of road-rash from crashes on pavement, the thought of having any kind of handgun in my jersey or on my body gives me crash visions of huge meaty gouges, bleeding wounds. For this reason, I will opt to carry on the bike itself, rather than my person. I've got a pretty slick little pack that mounts between my aerobar clip-ons that is the perfect place for a J-frame Airweight.

The Camelback option does have merit however.

stellarpod
 
I think the dislike of PEOPLE riding the bikes is misplaced, but I also think the BIKES do belong only on roads with 25 mph limits OR bike lanes. I drive daily and ride as often as I can. I live in an urban area with a speed limit of 25 mph and seldom do I ride away from this area. I have a mountain bike and I take full advantage of it's capabilities to ride medians and sidewalks where I see fit.
 
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