Why are M4rgeries so popular?

[mr.trooper]

I THINK what Boat is saying is that the barrel length of civilian models is not conducive to the design.

16" M4s have long barrels and a tiny reduced sight radius. Various companies have offered "dissipater" style rifles to no avail; they solve all the problems with civi length M4s yes nobody wants them.

 

[possum]

i can't speak for everyone, but i have an ar in an "m4" type set up for a few reasons
1) i can
2) it is handy and easier to shoot and move inside of structures and out.
3) that is what i use at work and in the sandbox, so therefore that is what i own and train with on my own dime, and time.

 

[H2O MAN]

mr.trooper I THINK what Boat is saying is that the barrel length of civilian models is not conducive to the design.

16" M4s have long barrels and a tiny reduced sight radius.

The abbreviated sight radius is not a problem as most run some type
of optic rendering the iron sights suitable to emergency back-up usage.

 

[benEzra]

16" M4s have long barrels and a tiny reduced sight radius. Various companies have offered "dissipater" style rifles to no avail; they solve all the problems with civi length M4s yes nobody wants them.

Dissipator-style rifles aren't all that popular, but midlengths do seem to be taking off.

To me, the Dissipator looks funny, and the length of the gas system still doesn't match the barrel length. The midlengths with 16" barrels look better and probably function a bit better, IMO.

 

[spuscg]

if the government was using .30-30s people would stock up on those. its only popular because "th military uses it so it must be good." although a lot of states make .223 illegal for deer............

 

[NonConformist]

Maybe because this is America and because we can? Or because we want to? etc

I bought mine as I have wanted one since i was a kid, though I prefer a longer rifle 18" and I carried one for 'serious' use

 

[ugaarguy]

if the government was using .30-30s people would stock up on those.

The .30 WCF (AKA 30-30 Winchester) is still a very popular cartridge. Ammo is relatively inexpensive, as are the rifles, and the round performs well on most medium size North American game.

its only popular because "th military uses it so it must be good."

The US Military does not use Glock pistols, yet they're extremely popular. They do not use pocket automatic pistols like the Keltecs and Ruger LCP, yet those are in constant demand. The Remington 870 shotgun was extremely popular before the US Military used it to replace the Ithaca 37, and it remains popular even after the military has transitioned to the Mossberg 590. The Remington 700 is a very popular rifle, despite the fact it's only been issued in very limited numbers as a sniper weapon within any military in the world.

All of those weapons are very popular because they perform exceedingly well in their intended role. The AR-15 style rifles perform extremely well in their intended role of a light weight, low recoil, semi-automatic, self defense or target rifle.

although a lot of states make .223 illegal for deer............

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution makes no mention of hunting. In fact it reads:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Further,

"The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves, ... all men capable of bearing arms;..."
— "Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic", 1788 (either Richard Henry Lee or Melancton Smith).

and

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

from http://www.constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm.