Oleg Volk
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No, THR will not require membership in any organization!
Will you survive the new "Warsaw Ghetto?"
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brookstexas
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Pro Gun Org Membership required?
Too many gun owners on here that AREN'T members of any pro gun groups.
Maybe after reading awhile they will figure out they need to be involved.
BT
Too many gun owners on here that AREN'T members of any pro gun groups.
Maybe after reading awhile they will figure out they need to be involved.
BT
So how exactly do you plan on introducing new shooters to the fight to stay free? Are you going to turn away all the new people interested in learning shooting, but aren't a member of a gun rights organization first? The middle of the road people who want to hear our side? Are you going to require they join the NRA before they ask questions and try to discuss issues with us? The gun owner who has a safety question but isn't a NRA member will be shown the THR door?
Great idea. What a wonderful way to bring more people over to our side, and encourage discussion. Having only people who agree with you around is a very good way to stimulate intellectual growth as well!
Great idea. What a wonderful way to bring more people over to our side, and encourage discussion. Having only people who agree with you around is a very good way to stimulate intellectual growth as well!
Sam Adams
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However well-intentioned this idea, it is simply wrong.
1) We are attempting to reach as many people as possible. If we require NRA or GOA, etc. membership, all that will be done is to preach to the choir. How do you reach fence-sitters who come here with questions?
2) I, for one, recoil at the idea of forced membership on any internet site. That's why I don't subscribe to any sites - this is a national or international conversation, and I won't pay for the "privilege" of spouting off, let alone merely lurking.
Regarding "How is it different this time?":
1) The people in the Warsaw Ghetto didn't know until it was too late what was happening. Ditto most of the victims of German genocide, Jewish or not. Now we know the depths to which human morality can fall, and we can be prepared accordingly.
2) America ain't Europe - we have guns, LOTS of them, and a history of using them against tyrants. In addition, we know how to use them - unlike most of those rounded up and murdered in Europe. I'd say that most of the people on THR or other gun sites would only give up their guns when the guns have a higher temperature than their bodies. The oppressor will bleed rivers of blood before he even begins to approach "success" in his operations - and the leaders would not be exempt, just as animals like Heydrich were not immune during WW2.
1) We are attempting to reach as many people as possible. If we require NRA or GOA, etc. membership, all that will be done is to preach to the choir. How do you reach fence-sitters who come here with questions?
2) I, for one, recoil at the idea of forced membership on any internet site. That's why I don't subscribe to any sites - this is a national or international conversation, and I won't pay for the "privilege" of spouting off, let alone merely lurking.
Regarding "How is it different this time?":
1) The people in the Warsaw Ghetto didn't know until it was too late what was happening. Ditto most of the victims of German genocide, Jewish or not. Now we know the depths to which human morality can fall, and we can be prepared accordingly.
2) America ain't Europe - we have guns, LOTS of them, and a history of using them against tyrants. In addition, we know how to use them - unlike most of those rounded up and murdered in Europe. I'd say that most of the people on THR or other gun sites would only give up their guns when the guns have a higher temperature than their bodies. The oppressor will bleed rivers of blood before he even begins to approach "success" in his operations - and the leaders would not be exempt, just as animals like Heydrich were not immune during WW2.
Although I have been pro-gun most of my life, I have not been a member of ANY special interest group including the NRA. The most effective actions I can take to help insure a healthy 2nd amendment is to introduce people to firearms and VOTE for progun issues and politicians. I don't need the United Way to help the poor so why do I need the NRA to support the 2nd amendment. I am a member of the NRA, but for how long I don't know. I do know I am doing my share to support ALL my rights. I feel I get alot of bang for the buck with the NRA, no one does it better than they.
We should SEEK opposite views, it does us a great service in the long run, it helps sharpen your mind and the defense of the 2nd amendment
We should SEEK opposite views, it does us a great service in the long run, it helps sharpen your mind and the defense of the 2nd amendment
Topgun
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Guess I just overreacted to the stuff in this month's American Rifleman.
I am heading back to MY history books that say Germany would have WON the war in Europe if the euro banks hadn't convinced Roosevelt to make Pearl Harbor possible so the informed Americans would insist on joining the fight.
I am gonna make a bundle. Opening a bait shop tonite.
I am heading back to MY history books that say Germany would have WON the war in Europe if the euro banks hadn't convinced Roosevelt to make Pearl Harbor possible so the informed Americans would insist on joining the fight.
I am gonna make a bundle. Opening a bait shop tonite.
Thumper
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Yeah, polio victims are known for their prowess at the stick of a Zero.
seeker_two
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Are you giving us a subtle hint as to your decision, Oleg?...
Thanks for all you do....
MicroBalrog
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I can name, off the top of my head, 10 guys who were more useful for the RKBA than most NRA members - without being members of any group. One of them owns this site.
The question sounds like promoting segregation with a hint of communism in it. Then putting it in the form of a poll to use democracy. I'm trying to see your point, but don't agree with your solution. Free speech is one thing that everyone should be allowed, even if you don't agree with content.
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