Winchester Super-X .22 LR... garbage?

[farscott]

The Freedom Arms Model 83 in .22 LR does have a firing pin with two protrusions, 180 degrees opposed. It is the only modern production gun that I know of that has the feature. My guess is cost combined with the reliability of modern ammunition has caused the feature to go the way of the dodo.

Why do rimfire rifles no longer have double headed firing pins?

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Everytime I read posts about people who complain about rimfire issues with respect to misfires, I end up wondering how the heck I'm missing out on all this. Maybe I'm just lucky.

In my life, I've fired untold thousands of .22, mostly LR and magnum. CCI, Winchester, Remington, and some Federal. Probably a few oddball brands, as well. I can't remember when the last time I had a misfire was.

In fact, I've not noticed any significant differences in incidents of misfires in any brand I've ever shot. Yeah, I've had an occasional misfire, but that's it.

I'm not saying complaints of misfires are false...just that this is such a rare event for me that it's never been a concern in my experience, regardless of the brand I've bought.

What I buy is based first on accuracy and reliability. After that, it's price. If it shoots straight and consistent, I'll sight my gun in on whatever is most cost effective and available and that's what I'll generally stick with.

And by reliability, I mean it goes "BANG!" when I pull the trigger and it cycles in my autoloader, if that's what I'm shooting it from. (Cycling obviously isn't a concern for bolt actions.)

 

[tkaction]

junk

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

It sounds like the op got a bad lot of super x. I can't recall a misfire or dud in almost 50 years of shooting other than Rem. golden bullet in bulk. I think bulk ammo (with the exception of Federal) are Winny and Remmy seconds or were made during the night shift when no one was watching.

Sometimes it's the firing pin is just not hitting the primer hard enough too. Might try a little cleaning.

 

[22-rimfire]

Cleaning the action and the chamber does make a difference in the number of fail to fires (FTFs). The cartridge has to be seated properly in the chamber for it to fire consistantly.

I seldom buy bulk packs of 22LR. I keep some around and yeah, I get FTF's with Remington Golden Bullets and Thunderbolts, but I don't worry about it. Their accuracy seems to outweigh my irratation on the FTF issue and I tend to shoot them in bolt action rifles versus semi-auto.

 

[loose noose]

Been shooting .22 LR for over 55 years, and can honestly say I've never had a misfire. In fact the only rifle I've ever had a problem with, was using an AR-7 by Charter Arms and Winchester Wildcat .22, it would fire everytime, just wouldn't eject, every other brand of ammo worked fine, and believe me, I've shot all brands of ammo. Now I've got Rugers, Brownings, Winchesters, Berettas, Taurus, North Americans, Marlins, Savages.

Sure don't understand all the duds, hopefully you folks with all the trouble aren't dry firing those weapons?!

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Speaking of Thunderbolts. I had problems with them decades ago and shyed away from them. About 4 months ago I shot some out of my single shot and the first 2 went in the same hole at 25 yards. I shot 3 more as I thought it was a fluke and ended up with a ragged hole. You just never know about any ammo as all lots differ to some extent. It just depends on the case, primer, powder, bullet and who was at the helm.