Wolf 7.62x39 on game?

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I've killed 4 deer with a SKS 7.62x39. I lost another one. The first 4 were all with the plain brown box HP's. The ranges were 40 to 80 yards. All were in heavy brush in S. Louisiana. All 4 were turned of like a light switch. No exit wounds. The bullets all fragmented to nothing. The lungs and hearts looked like jello. I found a little button of lead and jacket under the skin on the opposite side.

The one that got away. I was using "better" Remington SP. I found blood. My wife and I tracked ti for over and hour. Never found it. I went back to the "cheap" stuff.
 
Based on the performance report on www.brassfetcher.com, the Wolf 154 grain soft point should be a good performer, penetrated 16 inches of gellatin and left a large wound channel. I've got a full case of 1000 of these.
 
Folks, not all Wolf ammo is the same. Wolf is an ammo distributor/exporter for ammo made at Russian ammo arsenals. Wolf Gold line of premium ammo is actually made by Privi Partizan, not even in Russia!

Heres the scoop on 7.62x39 ammo distributed by Wolf that is Hollow Point.
Wolf Military Classic ammo, comes in a camo box, is made at the Ulyanovsk Aresenal. Wolf M.C. ammo in the Hollow Point flavor, uses the Uly 7NP bullet which does fragment when it yaws in soft tissue, typically at ranges around 100 yards and closer.

Wolf Performance (black box) HP ammo is essentially, for all intents and purposes, a FMJ bullet. Wolf Performance (Black Box) amm is made at the Tula Aresenal, totally different ammo plant from Uly, different geographic area, different bullet, different machines, etc.

Bottom line, Wolf Mil Cassic HP ammo does fragment much like 5.56spec ammo does at certain high velocitites at close ranges (100 yards or less) and does provide a better terminal ballistics permanent wound cavity as compared to any similar steel case FMJ ammo. Wolf Performance does offer a 154gr Soft Point steel cased 7.62x39 ammo. I have heard some good things from this ammo for hunting applications, unfortunately its not as easy to find as the FMJ or HP Wolf varieties.
 
I shot a whitetail deer here in Michigan a couple years back with my Yugo sks. I was using the cheap polymer-coated 122gr. hollowpoints. The shot was about 30 yards. A head shot, and it proved fatal. Now the deer fell on it's left side. I didn't see any blood, any bullet hole, nothing. Then I flipped it over. The left side of its face was melted away by the bullet. Apparently, the bullet tumbled up the side of the deer's face before going through the skull. Not very pretty.
 
Being a 14-year-old the kid got bored setting in the stand and shot the entire box at squirrels
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When I was a kid, that would have been my last hunting trip for a LONG time...

I have used Silver Bear 123gr SP's on game once...a 375 lb hog..worked pretty well
 
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"Wolf hollow point ammo is not suitable for game hunting. It's really just open-tip ammo designed for paper-punching, and does not display the controlled-expansion terminal ballistics that we'd normally expect of hunting ammo."

Tell that to the 9 deer that i have killed with it-9 shots. None went over 25 yards after being hit.
 
Wolf hollowpoint on deer

Here in the Ozarks the shots on deer tend to be short, but I've made a kill on a buck that weighed 115# field dressed, and this morning my son dropped a nice 125# buck (again field dressed, the biologist at the check station estimated live weight at 160# appox.) at just over 100 yds, mine was closer, 50-maybe 60 in both cases, the load worked perfectly, both took only 1 shot, mine was angling away, I hit just behind the last rib on the right side, the bullet exited forward of the left shoulder. He was on the ground before the brass (I love the sks as a deer rifle, if you miss with the bullet, you've still got a chance of nailing him with the brass, provided it doesn't burn up on re-entry :) , but, I digress, ) My son was on top of a hill, watched the buck bed down, then put a round into the right shoulder, the deer never moved. So far, we are at 100% couldn't ask for more results. My wife is taking her sks, and wolf hollow points tomorrow, will post the results if she connects. I'm happy enough with it that I bought a thousand rounds. It's a limited data base, but there it is.
 
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I just love how people have the audacity to say that wolf doesn't work, or isn't as effective as X or Y brand, at killing. Folks, people use "cheap wolf ammo" to kill animals all around the world, I'm sure. I guess it just burns some people that some "rank amateur" can get 10 kill with 10 bullets - 10 bullets purchased for roughly the same cost as just one bullet that he buys.
 
Wolf Military Classic ammo, comes in a camo box, is made at the Ulyanovsk Aresenal. Wolf M.C. ammo in the Hollow Point flavor, uses the Uly 7NP bullet which does fragment when it yaws in soft tissue, typically at ranges around 100 yards and closer.
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I have read this a lot and have yet to find a source for this info. I am not calling you a liar or anything, I would just like to have the info from a documented source with credentials. Do you havea source for this info?
 
I think you'll find in most plows the wold stuff is a lot closer to 2250 FPS than any of the other figures. In our state (AL) NONE of the green metal case stuff is legal for hunting...none of the SP expands as it's still copper washed steel jacketed. You can use remington federal winchester (ect) brass cases SP ammo with muchrooming ammo. The SKS is legal here to hunt with. The 7.62x39 doe better with remington SP but is still pretty anemic even compared to a good .30-30 with 150gr SP at an actualy 2250-2300 FPS in real riflers in most cases. I'd limit my shots to 100-150 yards and avoid shoulders like the plague. I'd also reccomend a $150 used Marlin .30-30 over it...the ammo is cheaper easier to find and better. I've put meet on the table with the humble .30-30 plenty of times. Though I'd rather have a .30-06 or 7 mag these days. .30-30 is very easy and cheap to reload for....the roundnose 150gr corelocked bullets are cheap (and what I mostly used to use...they work great at putting what little juice the .30-30 has to the meat...it's a vert efficient little setup -really under rated these days)

I've shot game with the 7.62x39 BTW...from a headshot squirrel to a small doe. It can work well with good ammo if you pick your shots. It's not a combo I'd choose to use for deer generally though. Possibly with some heavier 150gr handloads. It is a great cheap Hog and varmint control tool though...they are very popular for both around here. All things being equal I'd take a .30-30
 
This is a 500lb hog taken with 7.62x39:

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I've dropped many deer and hog over the last half-dozen years with the round - all shoulder/chest shots taken from 10 to 120 yards away - and the round works just fine as long as the ammo is suitable to the game.

The Brown Bear 123gr SP is too frangible for hog but works OK for deer; the same seems to hold true for the Wolf 154gr SP fodder. None of the Wolf HP will reliably expand or fragment; performance is quite variable and I generally don't use it (altho some folks really like it for hog). I prefer Sierra 125gr. bullets for hog; they hold together better. For deer, I use Hornady 123gr SPs.
 
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