XCR initial review

[BrennanKG]

Correia,

Thanks I'll check it out.


EM,

That's my thinking as well, both on the pricing/sights issue and the groovy features.


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[LoadedDrum]

Corriea-
Great article in SWAT. I have to agree with your comments about the bolt falling out and the reciever opening angle. However, my trigger does not seem to suffer the problems yours had. Mine s/n is in the low 300's and I noticed yours was 58. Have you tried latter production models and what did you think of them? Also, in your review, when you mentioned the recoil being different, but not lighter than an AR, what gas port setting did you use?

 

[Correia]

Off the top of my head, I can't recall what the port setting was at. I left it at factory standard and never tweaked it. Reliability was fine except for Wolf, so I didn't want to play with it.

I haven't tried the trigger on a later one, just this one that I had. My understanding is that they issued a recall on the first ones out because something was breaking in the trigger group. At that point I had already sold the gun.

 

[BrennanKG]

To be honest, the XCR's appeal to me is not that it isn't an AR15.
I love AR15s.
They're easy to shoot, easy to maintain, and fun to accessorize.

The XCR's appeal is in the features which will make it well-suited for shooting suppressed: piston-driven and side-cocking. I realize that ARs can be set up in a related fashion: piston upper and a PRI gas-buster to minimize the nose/eye splatter, but a rifle actually designed for this has a certain sexiness.

That's why I'm interested in the XCR and why I'm interested in the Sig 556.


Just my 2 cents.

 

[atblis]

Anybody remember the Daewoo?

Superb Side folding stock
Piston driven adjustable gas system
Good sights
Has provisions for a optics rail.
Uses M16 mags
etc.
etc.
Basically has all the features these newfangled guns have (except the quick change barrels).

The Koreans did it first.

 

[BrennanKG]

atblis,

A local gun store here has both the K1 and K2.
I think they're part of the owner's collection he's selling off.

The K1 has a sliding wire stock and an AR-style DI system.
The K2 has the folding stock and a piston system.

Cool little rifles.



B.

 

[Civilian Armory]

The XCR has always looked a lot like the HAC-7c to me.

 

[BrennanKG]

HAC-7c?

http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/pictorial/

Huh, you're right.
Something like an XCR and something like a Daewoo, in a retroactive way.



B.

 

[LoadedDrum]

Off the top of my head, I can't recall what the port setting was at. I left it at factory standard and never tweaked it. Reliability was fine except for Wolf, so I didn't want to play with it.

I haven't tried the trigger on a later one, just this one that I had. My understanding is that they issued a recall on the first ones out because something was breaking in the trigger group. At that point I had already sold the gun.

You really owe it to your self to try one with a lower port setting. They ship on the max setting whose recoil IMHO is not as pleasant as a rifle length AR. However, there is a world of difference just by setting the gun at the next setting down. The recoil becomes soft with M193 and AE rounds. The muzzle jump is greatly diminished. Several AR shooters that tried mine have commented to me that they can keep the sights on target during rapid fire. Supposedly, the hot stuff (Q3131,XM193, and even AE) will run just fine on the #2 setting which is even lighter recoiling still but I have yet to try it.

 

[BrennanKG]

I finally found a copy of the SWAT magazine with the XCR article.


Also, good news for some of us...it looks like the XCR is going to be offered with a medium contour, fluted barrel! Between this and the stock adapters now offered, I'm contacting my local Robarm dealer this week.

Later,
B.

 

[TOU]

I know.....old thread, but I liked it.

Evil monkey wrote:

But...it's so cool. What other rifle has AR15 ergonomics, a piston, and a FAL style charging handle?

Daewoo (except the FAL charging handle)

atblis wrote:

Superb Side folding stock
Piston driven adjustable gas system
Good sights
Has provisions for a optics rail.
Uses M16 mags
etc.
etc.
Basically has all the features these newfangled guns have (except the quick change barrels).

I sooooo agree.....it has everything but the left sided charging handle and the quick change barrels but has some other unique design features. Interchangeable triggers with AR's (IE RRA match triggers). Did we also mention that it also has FAL/XCR style gas adjustment.

I do like these new XCR's wit the left side charging handle, flip up sights (at additional cost) and quick change barrels and potential for additional calibers. But...unfortuately when I first looked at one and hit the lever to open it up, everything clattered on the gun shops glass counter before I could stop it. I felt like such an idiot as anyone in the store swung around to look at the moron (me) at the counter. I wished the worker would have warned me...anyway I put back together as quick as possible. Realistically the Daewoo is similar in how it opens up, but the Daewoo has an added feature that the XCR doesn't that I never thought much of until this happened to me on the XCR. I actually initially thought it was a PITA until now but now I know why and it make so much sense and I am impressed with their foresight. What it is, is that the charging handle works as a safety to stop this from happening and you remove it (handle) on a slot on the side. Until it is, crap isn't flying all over and when you do, you are usually prepared for the ejection of the contents. I still say (besides the right handled bolt) it was waaaay ahead of it's time and is a highly under rated and under appreciated rifle.

The Koreans did it first.

Correct you are, it was actually designed 30 years ago!

I can't believe it hasn't ever been licensed for manufacture in the US...that would have solved a ton of problems and allowed it to flourish and develop in the States consumer markets.