Just to clarify, I'm comparing the muzzle blast of a 24.5" barrel 7mm mag with a 22" .30-'06, not a .300 Win. Mag.I'm hoping someone with a dBC peak hold sound level meter will respond.
Subjectively (IMO) the 7 mag, with a decent length barrel and without a brake, isn't all that loud. I think in the OP example, they would be pretty similar.
A particular 7 mag might have more recoil than a particular 300 mag, but an assertion that this is generally true would be absurd.
Thinking of buying a 7mm Mag. for an upcoming Oryx hunt, but have heard they are pretty loud. How would a 24.5" barrel 7mm Mag. compare to a 22" .30-'06 as far as muzzle blast?
Not true, males can run up to 650 lbs. and are MUCH tougher than a bull elk. In Africa they are known as about the only animal that can kill lions. My guide won't let clients go out with under a .30 cal., (or 7mm mag.) he's seen to many horror stories of wounded animals.Muzzle blast from any magnum can be felt by a shooter 10ish feet from the thing. Not so with an '06.
An oryx runs 250 to 390 lbs. That's less than a bull elk. Way less than any moose. No magnums are needed.
I also have a 22", relatively lightweight, 30-06 and a 26" 7 Rem mag, neither with brakes, and and I concur.I have both and don't find a noticeable difference in either noise level or felt recoil.
are MUCH tougher than a bull elk.
My guide won't let clients go out with under a .30 cal., (or 7mm mag.) he's seen to many horror stories of wounded animals.
My guide won't let clients go out with under a .30 cal., (or 7mm mag.) he's seen to many horror stories of wounded animals.
About 200 yards farther. From someone who HAS hunted them:How much longer do they live when shot in the lungs as compared to a bull elk?
Does this thing simply bleed slower? How is it so much tougher than a bull elk?
Several sites list the upper range of an Oryx at 390 lbs...including the African Wildlife Foundation and Wikipedia. The National Zoo and San Diego Zoo list an upper end of 460 lbs. Chuck Hawks site lists 460 lbs. I don't see anyone listing 600+ as representative of the breed. I'm not saying one couldn't get that big...but I'm not seeing any qualified source listing that as realistic.
Reread my post, I said he did approve of 7mm mag. They are one of the most experienced guide services in NM, with 26 years experience.Fire that guide and find one that knows what he is doing.
30-06 and 7mm magnum are essentially the same in all regards. The 7 mags will shoot ever slightly flatter and on paper give a tiny bit more energy at longer ranges. But they are so close I can't see any game animal ever noticing.
The difference of .024" in bullet diameter is a non-factor, other than making it possible to have light bullets with good BC's.
Thanks, that helps make my decision against the 7mm mag. The rifle I was looking at is 1.5" shorter than the one you describe.I dont know about noise and recoil as perceived by the shooter, but i have been the spotter for a friend shooting exactly what you are asking about. My friend wanted help sighting in 2 remington 700's. One was a 30.06 with 22" barrel. The other a 7 mag with a 26" barrel. From my position to his left and slightly behind him, the 7 mag was MUCH louder. I dont usually use ear protection when shooting outdoors, but I needed them that time.
About 200 yards farther. From someone who HAS hunted them:
"I killed my 38" bull At White Sands NM in 1995. I shot him at about 150 yards with .30-06 using 180 TBBC bullets. The first round broke his on shoulder and double lunged him. he went down at the shot then got up and tri-podded for about 200 yards before going down again . I had to shoot him twice more to kill him. They are TOUGH."