$399 for brand new Remington 1911 (Rebate)

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First off, GREAT price.

Second, I wonder if this is due to reduction in gun sales resulting in better deals?
 
Yo Mama said:
First off, GREAT price.

Second, I wonder if this is due to reduction in gun sales resulting in better deals?
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It could just seem that way, but I have been seeing a lot more rebates (for solid amounts) recently. From everything I am seeing and reading, the industry (with some exceptions) is hurting right now. I don't need another 1911, but buying one to help stimulate the industry is a noble reason right :p
 
Careful with those rebate deals. I purchased a Leupold scope with a $50 rebate and it took several phone calls and 7 months to get it.

Basically what you end up doing is negotiating with a third party trying to get your rebate. Usually the language in the rebate states it may take 6 to 12 weeks to get your rebate. After you fill out the paperwork and your rebate never comes you call Remington. They tell you that they aren't managing the rebate and give you another number. You call those shysters and they tell you they didn't receive the paperwork, you need to resubmit it. You resubmit it and still nothing happens on their end. You call them again and they verify that yes indeed, they have your claim but it will take a few more weeks to "process" it. That could turn into several more months. Some people will forget about that rebate in 3-6 months so the rebate company pays nothing in that case.

Those rebate deals costs mfg's very little. It's just advertising for them. The mfg. pays x dollars to the shyster rebate company to handle the rebate which gives the shyster rebate company a chance pay out less in rebates than the mgf. paid them. I'm on to those clowns and no more rebate deals for homey.

Would you loan someone $100 for 6 months interest free? That's basically what you are doing with a rebate.
 
CoalTrain49 said:
Careful with those rebate deals. I purchased a Leupold scope with a $50 rebate and it took several phone calls and 7 months to get it.

Basically what you end up doing is negotiating with a third party trying to get your rebate. Usually the language in the rebate states it may take 6 to 12 weeks to get your rebate. After you fill out the paperwork and your rebate never comes you call Remington. They tell you that they aren't managing the rebate and give you another number. You call those shysters and they tell you they didn't receive the paperwork, you need to resubmit it. You resubmit it and still nothing happens on their end. You call them again and they verify that yes indeed, they have your claim but it will take a few more weeks to "process" it. That could turn into several more months. Some people will forget about that rebate in 3-6 months so the rebate company pays nothing in that case.

Those rebate deals costs mfg's very little. It's just advertising for them. The mfg. pays x dollars to the shyster rebate company to handle the rebate which gives the shyster rebate company a chance pay out less in rebates than the mgf. paid them. I'm on to those clowns and no more rebate deals for homey.

Would you loan someone $100 for 6 months interest free? That's basically what you are doing with a rebate.
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To be fair, a lot of companies are getting better. This one for instance lets you submit and track online.

https://remington.rebateaccess.com/
 
I've been eyeing a Ruger 4.25-inch SR1911 for a while now... with this rebate, the Remington version would come in a little lower... Hmmm..
 
I've used the Remington rebate program twice in the last 3 years. It takes time, but if you submit the receipt and the code bar from the box (the name escapes me for some reason right now) you WILL get your rebate.

Rem, savage, bushnell, sig, Hornady, rcbs, and champion are companies I have debated from - which I can readily recall off of the top of my head - in the last ~2yrs which have all gone exactly as promised.
 
CoalTrain49 said:
Go for it and see what happens. My experience is about 50% getting a rebate without additional action on my part.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/consumerism/rebate_madness01.html
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I can see how being burned could leave you a little jaded but honestly the majority of people don't have problems with their rebates, assuming they follow the directions and dot all the I's and cross their T's. The main reason they claim such a large number of unclaimed rebates is because most people don't even send them in.
 
Hanzo581 said:
I can see how being burned could leave you a little jaded but honestly the majority of people don't have problems with their rebates, assuming they follow the directions and dot all the I's and cross their T's. The main reason they claim such a large number of unclaimed rebates is because most people don't even send them in.
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That has to be an assumption on your part. How could you possibly know that?
 
CoalTrain49 said:
That has to be an assumption on your part. How could you possibly know that?
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It's an anecdotal story to be sure. I worked retail for a little over ten years and people would consistently get angry when a sale sign reflected a rebate price, I'd hear all the time about how they wouldn't be bothered sending it in. I found it was mostly dependent on the value of the rebate, anything under $20 back and some people wouldn't even take the form. Honestly, I'm guilty of that as well.

An example here.

"While redemption rates are typically kept under wraps by retailers and the fulfillment companies that handle rebates, Gourville estimates that even for pricey items with rebates worth $50, the redemption rate is below 50 percent. On smaller items with rebates under $10, redemption rates are likely to be in the single digits, he says. "You might delay, inadvertently throw out one of the pieces, or never get around to it," Gourville says."

http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2008/01/18/why-shoppers-love-to-hate-rebates
 
I never submitted a rebate currently by mail. It is listed on Grabagun as a MIR. (mail in rebate)

S&W, Colt and Springfield all have a online submission form. Easy to fill out, just scan and add the receipt as an attachment.

Not sure why this would still be done through the mail?
 
Hanzo581 said:
It's an anecdotal story to be sure. I worked retail for a little over ten years and people would consistently get angry when a sale sign reflected a rebate price, I'd hear all the time about how they wouldn't be bothered sending it in. I found it was mostly dependent on the value of the rebate, anything under $20 back and some people wouldn't even take the form. Honestly, I'm guilty of that as well.

An example here.

"While redemption rates are typically kept under wraps by retailers and the fulfillment companies that handle rebates, Gourville estimates that even for pricey items with rebates worth $50, the redemption rate is below 50 percent. On smaller items with rebates under $10, redemption rates are likely to be in the single digits, he says. "You might delay, inadvertently throw out one of the pieces, or never get around to it," Gourville says."

http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2008/01/18/why-shoppers-love-to-hate-rebates
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That story is 9 years old.

You probably know more about retail than I do and I'm not disputing that some people don't send their rebate in or screw up the information on the form.

I can only speak from my experience. I document everything and keep a copy when I file a claim or send in a rebate voucher. I was recently able to recover $1200 from a failed RV axle (full out-of-pocket cost) because I was very patient with the company and responded to every request that they made within 24 hours.

In the case of the Leupold rebate I was told that they had no record of it. So that leaves non-delivery. It didn't come back as non deliverable so I assume they actually did receive it. I find the USPS to be slow but generally they track pretty well. I learned my lesson there so next time I'm going to send return receipt. This is just one excuse that they use to not process a rebate. The other is incomplete information. Try to pin them down about exactly what information they don't have and they say resubmit. More delay and work for you hoping you will just write it off.

This type of fraud is more widespread than you think. All I'm saying is be aware that you may be in for more than you bargained for trying to get a rebate.
 
I'm sorry your one instance of a difficult rebate thru Leupold's handler was delayed. That is exactly what a lot of people experience - a deal gone bad needing a lot of extra handling. However, it has NOTHING to do with Remington's rebate and it remains to be seen.

I've worked retail for over 40 years off and on and the poster's experience above is typical - a retail ad with a low price and "mail in rebate" is usually not taken up by customers very often. The price attracted them but the need was more important in many cases. I hand out or print off the coupon but I never know if they actually send it in. When I did do that my experience from twenty years ago was all positive - I even got the free weedeater with a purchase of ceiling tiles! That should date how long ago I did it. I gave it all up just like most do because I saw it as a cheesy come on - not a real instant on the spot no money risked sale price. So do my customers. They want the low price right now, and don't care for delayed satisfaction.

If I was shopping for a decent 1911 I'd seriously consider Remington's offer. Someone's difficult transaction from years ago with a completely different product has nothing much to do with this deal.
 
so does anyone have one of the Remington 1911s? I've wanted a 1911 for quite some time, and if it's a decent example, maybe I'll bite.
 
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