My thoughts on the Sig P938 legion 9mm

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I received this gun on 12-26 these are my initial thoughts on the P938 Legion before firing the gun.
The pistol comes with three 7 rnd mags, one of the magazines had a stripped screw that attaches the grip extension to the floor plate of the magazine, I contacted Sig today about this issue.
These 7 round mags barely hold 7 rounds, it's a real squeeze, I will do six for now. I suspect the magazine follower may be a bit to long?
I did a field strip of the pistol which was a bit of a pain, the slide release pin is to short and does not protrude far enough through the right side of the frame to allow for easy removal.
The ambidextrous safety is a bit of a enigma as there is no magazine release on the right side of the gun, the safety on this pistol is quite small and could be easy to missed when needed.
 
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On the up side, the sights on this pistol are awesome, and the trigger is pretty dang good. I sold my XDS 9mm to help fund the purchase of the P938 legion. The XDS is very reliable but I did not like the trigger and did not shoot it well, the P938 solves the trigger issue and it is smaller and lighter which is a better conceal carry option for me.
I hope it works out.
 
I hope it works out for you, too. My P-938 Extreme is an awesome little carry pistol with a great trigger and excellent accuracy; a Legion in this model is on the horizon ...
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I own the Extreme and didn't know Sig had a 938 Legion. At first glance I like the magwell extension but would need to see how it is attached to determine if it will hold up over time. I find the baseplate on the standard 938s a bit odd and like most semi-autos with short grips I find it easy to pinch my palm during reloads. The Legion setup seems to solve both problems. I would like to try a Legion mag in my Extreme and see if it works properly and feels correct.

I've owned the 938 for just over a year and never carried it. The Extreme grips are too small for me and I don't shoot it well at all. I've shot other 938s with the Hogue rubber grips and shoot those much better. I'll be interested to see the feedback on the Legion modifications.
 
Planning to buy one.

The magazine base plate on these are a little different to accommodate the mag well, correct?
 
The P938 take down is pretty much just like a 1911 (without the bushing). I use a wood dowel sharpened like a pencil to push the take down lever out.
 
I have carried one for three years. Very accurate pistol. I have the extended mag rubber grips. The front sight was loose when new. I repaired it myself with aluminum shim.
 
My response from Sig regarding the magazine was ship it back on my dime :cuss:
The gun shop where I bought the gun is a Sig authorized dealer and they said they would take care of that.
I did shoot the pistol yesterday with a variety of 124gr 9x19 and a few 135gr loads all of these loads shot 3.75-5.5" high Sig did not seem to care about this issue and if I sent the gun back for evaluation I would pay all expense of shipping plus a service charge if Sig found the gun to shoot to there specification. I asked what is Sig's acceptable accuracy, customer NO service had no answer.
Not very happy right now with Sig, the gun shop will hopefully resolve these issues.
If you are thinking of buying a Sig firearm Good luck with that, their customer service sucks.
 
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joneb said:
My response from Sig regarding the magazine was ship it back on my dime :cuss:
The gun shop where I bought the gun is a Sig authorized dealer and they said they would take care of that.
I did shoot the pistol yesterday with a variety of 124gr 9x19 and a few 135gr loads all of these loads shot 3.75-5.5" high Sig did not seem to care about this issue and if I sent the gun back for evaluation I would pay all expense of shipping plus a service charge if Sig found the gun to shoot to there specification. I asked what is Sig's acceptable accuracy, customer NO service had no answer.
Not very happy right now with Sig, the gun shop will hopefully resolve these issues.
If you are thinking of buying a Sig firearm Good luck with that, their customer service sucks.
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Stuff like this is why I categorically refuse to buy a Sig. Their QC is, uh...Milspec & they're pretty proud of their prices.
 
That totally sucks, I agree. I have had great luck with SIG and their CS. They have taken care of any issues I have had free of charge, no questions asked. They even sent me the mailing label to send it back,

Now it seems that MOST gun companies are charging customers for customer-related issues. I had some issues with my HK VP9 which when I talked to their CS, they said they would fix for free, but when they got the gun, they claimed that the issue was my fault, and it cost me about $90 to get my gun back. In their defense, it probably was my fault, I replaced some trigger parts and I did not get the trigger return spring in correctly!!! UGH! o_O

I think what they are saying is that if the gun has a problem, they will fix it at no charge. If the issue is your inability to aim it correctly, etc., they will charge you for their time. I am sure they get a lot of guns sent back by folks that just don't know how to shoot them, so this can get expensive.

If you are sure the gun is at fault, send it back.

The mag issue, that really does not sound right however... They should fix that and should pay for shipping without any questions or issues.

Sorry you have had such a miserable experience.
 
I was thinking of a Sig for my wife after this experience I will be looking elsewhere.
 
Well...

Got a P938 "Nightmare" a few years ago and it is fantastic.

And I like the 6-round grip.

Forget the pinky and enjoy the two-finger grip and micro form-factor.

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Flawless operation so far, and shoots 147 gr. ammo very accurately - like nuts-on 4" groups at 25 Yards.


As for Sig C/S?

Even though my pistol was working fine, I inquired into the newly redesigned main spring/housing, as mine was manufactured right before the switch.

$7 shipped - and I installed it myself in a few minutes.




GR
 
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Bought my wife a P938 and liked it well enough to buy one for myself. Have carried it everyday for several years. My son and DIL also have P938’s. Easy to carry, easy to disassemble and clean, shoots really well, surprisingly accurate for a small gun, great CS. Also have other Sig pistols as do other family members. Wouldn’t hesitate for a moment to buy another.

Used their CS three times. Each time there were no questions asked and parts were in my hands in a couple of days. One grip screw, one front night site that appeared to be changing color, one guide rod I lost. Really thought the front site would be a uphill fight but nope. They put a new one in the mail that very day with no questions asked.
 
I have carried one for three years. Front sight was loose when new. Aluminum pop can fixed that. Perfect gun after that. I tend to fix the small stuff myself. Most of the time I assume my problems are operator error.
 
Well the owner of the gun shop took care of me :) he replaced the magazine and finally found a lower rear sight which corrected the POI issue, the gun now shoots POA at 15 yds with 124 gr bullets.
I have shot about 400 rounds through this pistol with all types of bullet profiles and bullet weights ranging from 100-135gr and the gun has always worked flawlessly.
I noticed that the recoil spring guide rod was protruding out from the slide, it was unscrewing from the barrel support. I cleaned the parts and reassembled with red lock tite, so far so good.
 
Glad you got it sorted out. I am on the hunt for one of these still. Just haven’t found one in person yet.
 
POI will not be POA with any and all ammunition you put thru your pistol. It doesn’t work that way. Your 90 grain rounds not impacting the same spot as your Buffalo Bore 165 grain rounds doesn’t mean the manufacturer has done anything wrong. They’re not going to waste money to fix what isn’t broke. Paul Harrel on youtube has many videos explaining this. Watch those.
 
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POI will not be POA with any and all ammunition you put thru your pistol
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I am well aware of that, but this pistol printed 4.5" high with 124gr bullets. If a manufacturer sells a 9mm Luger pistol that has sights regulated for 90-95 grain bullets they will have some unhappy customers.
 
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I am well aware of that, but this pistol printed 4.5" high with 124gr bullets. If a manufacturer sells a 9mm Luger pistol that has sights regulated for 90-95 grain bullets they will have some unhappy customers.
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POI and POA were the same with 90-95 grain bullets? How did it print with other weights?
 
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POI and POA were the same with 90-95 grain bullets? How did it print with other weights?
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You are misunderstanding. He’s saying it printed 4.5” high with 124 gr ammo so to bring POI lower to match up POA by way of changing bullet weights, it would require 90-95 gr bullets.

No manufacturers are using 95 gr bullets to set their sight alignment. If that’s what Sig is doing it would piss off 95% of purchasers as 115 and 124 gr ammo is what everyone is expecting to hit reasonably close to POA in all modern 9mm guns.

Logic dictates that something is wrong with the gun. Unless the OP is doing something totally wrong and doesn’t understand sight picture. But I don’t get that impression. It could be technique but I see no reason to assume that.
 
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