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In the Northeast it is easier to carry a 30-30 carbine through the woods than a 30-06. Most of your shots will be inside 100 yards, and many tales are told of taking Moose and Black Bear with 30-30. I'd bet on a skilled hunter with a 30-30 over a less skilled hunter with a 30-06 around these parts anyways; regardless of the game involved.
 
FlSwampRat said:
Point well taken. I'm an Eastern boy and so my perspective is eastern woods hunting. The boys West of the Big Muddy have to hunt a whole different way, not taking anything away from them.
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In the upper peninsula of Michigan, 00 buck could kill most of the deer I saw. Moving to a plains state was an eye opener.
 
Bfh_auto said:
In the upper peninsula of Michigan, 00 buck could kill most of the deer I saw. Moving to a plains state was an eye opener.
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Every area has its own challenges and the answers for one area don't work in another necessarily. I'd pay money to watch someone hunt elk in the rockies from a blow boat. (Air boat for you drylanders)
 
Keep in mind that deer vary very much in terms of size and with from one region to another, and the ranges at which they are taken vary immensely.
 
Kleanbore said:
Keep in mind that deer vary very much in terms of size and with from one region to another, and the ranges at which they are taken vary immensely.
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They also vary from year to year as the story is told.
Also, western count they only count one side of the rack.
Good old regional variations.
As for Key deer, I've seen bigger German Shepherds.
 
Kleanbore said:
Keep in mind that deer vary very much in terms of size and with from one region to another, and the ranges at which they are taken vary immensely.
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My deer rifle for living in New England was my 35 Remington. When I moved south I expected to use the same rifle for deer, except the deer down here are maybe half the size. Haven't had a hunting season here yet.
 
Archie said:
Around 1900, the .32 Winchester Center Fire (aka .32-20) was considered a deer cartridge. Currently, .32-20 is considered far too weak for such use.

However, if it used to take deer, it still should, right? What is not mentioned is how many deer were wounded and got away. I think the same can be said for the .30-30 and moose.

One also notes both deer and moose are not considered 'dangerous' game in the same sense as lion, Cape Buffalo and elephant. A wounded deer will not typically attack, like a Grizzly Bear.

I prefer a bit more 'margin for error' with rifles for dangerous adversaries, be they game or belligerents.

My major complaint about the .30-30 is I do not really admire lever guns. Nor is the Savage 340 really compelling. I have a Savage Sportster in .32-20. It is trim and fun to shoot. But I wouldn't use it on deer by choice.
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Not to be confused with the Winchester .32 Special. I get you on not admiring lever guns. I do admire them, in part because of their American heritage and western "feel". I am partial to the Model 94. The gun that I identify as least admirable, and it is strictly in one's taste, would be the slide or pump action rifle. Pump shotguns are a different matter.

Your point about how many deer might have "gotten away" is an interesting one. I would suppose that only each individual hunter or those who have harvest previously wounded animals would have any idea, and then in that - not collectively.

Just discussion some of your very interesting points. Thanks.
 
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