desmobob
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I've used a bunch of it in .40 and 9mm loads with no problems or complaints. I've always thought of it as a slower version of Unique...
True but they have no data for 165gr loads. I'm stocked on 165s and with no data at all for this weight, makes me think they had some more pressure spike problems. Especially since nobody here has come out and said they have used this combination.
You selective quoted or cherry picked my post.It burns clean at pressures found in the .40 S&W.
You never answers what other powders are avalible??
It burns clean at pressures found in the .40 S&W.
I don't understand your gripe, and I certainly didn't cherry pick.. I said it works well in the .40, at .40 pressures. Maybe I should have explained better.You selective quoted or cherry picked my post.
With a 180 grain bullet which is not the OPs question, there is data for the 180, and said you wouldn't buy it again.
I believe Power Pistol was the only other slow powder on the shelf. That would be ok but I wanted something that would give the velocity of BE-86 and Blue Dot did that with other bullet weights in some cases. Power Pistol wasn’t quite up there as high. There was a ton of Titegroup and Bullseye but that’s the total wrong end of what I want.
I mentioned in post #27 how to find the load data for your 165 gr bullet and use the Blue Dot . It is not all this complicated. I still maintain that there are better powders out there that are more of a medium burn it doesn't have to be a a slow magnum powder.
Clean or Dirty doesn't matter, clean you guns anyway.
As always, start low, work up, YMMV Hope this Helps etc etc.
Then don't do it, we get it.nobody here makes me feel warm and fuzzy about Blue Dot with my combination.
I would do that but since Blue Dot has had pressure spikes with two different loads in the past, I don’t want to be the guy who finds the next crazy pressure spike with a combination that has no published data (for full power). Since 40S&W 165 grain bullets are so common and Speer skipped this data for Blue Dot, makes me wonder if there were major problems. Again nobody here makes me feel warm and fuzzy about Blue Dot with my combination. I might use the Lyman data for just plain middle of the road target loads but not 1150fps full power stuff.
Thanks to everyone for the help!
I shared data from Lyman 49. It was accurate. I just prefer CFE-P because I can throw it with a volumetric. I was using a beam scale for the Bluedot.I would do that but since Blue Dot has had pressure spikes with two different loads in the past, I don’t want to be the guy who finds the next crazy pressure spike with a combination that has no published data (for full power). Since 40S&W 165 grain bullets are so common and Speer skipped this data for Blue Dot, makes me wonder if there were major problems. Again nobody here makes me feel warm and fuzzy about Blue Dot with my combination. I might use the Lyman data for just plain middle of the road target loads but not 1150fps full power stuff.
Thanks to everyone for the help!
I've used a bunch of it in .40 and 9mm loads with no problems or complaints.
I sure burn a LOT of it in 10mm and 44 mag.
Same here including 165 grainers.
I don't understand why you do not like Lyman #49 load data for the 165 gr bullet and Blue Dot?? Again I am not a fan of the powder but the data is there in black and white?
How high did you go?
Because it shows a max load of 9.2gr at 1018fps. Speer shows loads for 165gr that are basically 100fps faster. (similar to factor GoldDots). This is what I want to be able to load.
I haven’t been able to find what barrel length Speer is using though. Lyman is using 4” so if Speer is using 5” that might be the difference.
Good grief. Alliant/Speer used a 4" universal receiver. Lyman used a 4" SW.
Which all means nothing as you are using a different bullet different gun, different test conditions and phase of the moon and planet alignment.
Good Luck!
Blue Dot is very bulky and they may have simply run out of room to pack more in, dunno. That's easily checked though.
100 FPS plus or minus in a book isn't a big deal in .40 IMHO, not worth chasing it if gets you out of your comfort zone.