Best design/platform for the .40 S&W ?

Best design/platform for the .40 S&W ?

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I've gotten some amazing deals on police turn-in 40's. I'm very happy that so many departments made changes that allowed me to buy such excellent pistols so cheaply. Hopefully they will eventually regret their decisions, move back to 40 or some other caliber, and I will be able to get their current 9mm pistols for dirt cheap! :)

I actually bought this double-stack RIA 40 caliber 1911 brand-new. It's a very large pistol. The owner of the LGS was having trouble moving it and eventually gave me a good deal on it. I have XXL hands and can shoot it just fine, but someone with small hands would doubtless have trouble.

RIA 1911 40 caliber double stack

RIA 1911 40 caliber double stack

 
lionking said:
Shot my Springfield XDM 5.25 with factory adjustable sights today, thinking of getting one in .40 now.

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I bought a 5.25 40 after shooting my buddies 9mm, of course buddies had a Powder River trigger and the stock one pales in comparison so mine does too now.
It's a very easy gun to shoot well.
As to the OP I agree that the better designs are the ones that were clean sheet so to speak for 40. I also really like my FNS 40.
 
Not sure what magazine it was in (American Rifleman? Guns & Ammo? Good Housekeeping?), but I do seem to recall it being said at the time when the M&P came out, that it was designed specifically for the 40, and I want to say that at first it was only out in 40.
 
The gen 3 in the picture I posted has had 3 different lights. I dont think it has had a shot fired through it without a light on it. I've put a few thousand rounds through it through 20 or more different magazines, both gen4 mags and earlier, plus it was a Police trade in before I got it. It has never had an issue. I know that some did though. It was blamed on everything from weak mag springs to weak recoil springs allowing the slide to travel too fast.

As far as the OP. Best would have to be defined.
Most accurate? Likely a 1911
Longest lasting? I'd bet USP
Best feeling? Subjective
For instance I know the 229 was built around the 40. I prefer the 226 to the 229 in every way, and i have both.

If you made an x-frame or desert eagle in .40 it would be the most durable...doesn't make it best for anything.
 
JTQ said:
The guy you quoted was commenting on Gen 4 G22's, which is why I asked.
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Oops, read it as Gen 3 because I thought we were discussing LE trade-in Glocks. I missed the segue from what is available to what was desired at the trade-in price
 
crestoncowboy said:
It has never had an issue. I know that some did though. It was blamed on everything from weak mag springs to weak recoil springs allowing the slide to travel too fast.
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It had to do with the WML tightly mounted to the rails reducing the designed-in flex of the frame. The flex allowed the pistol to reliably chamber rounds.

The Factory "fix" was increased power magazine springs to get rounds in front of the returning slide faster. The Gen 4 fix was a stronger recoil assembly to slow down the rearward movement of the slide rather than count on the flex of the frame to do that
 
I currently own 4 .40 guns:

Ruger SR40
Ruger P94
FN FNS-40
Springfield XDM40

IMO, the SR40 is the best shooting 40 of the bunch.

I owned an H&K USP 40 and that thing was BRUTAL to shoot, I see how it got the nickname "The Meat Tenderizer". I sold the H&K and was glad to be rid of it. My other 40s all shoot about like 9s.

Right now, Bud's has the Ruger SR40 for $290 shipped.
 
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BarryHalls said:
I don't get the joke. Was that the model the cop sued over, after shooting himself mounting
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It wasn't a joke so much as a flaw in the design that Glock always seems to deny.

Luckily no one was shot or otherwise injured as the issue was discovered during a LE Department's transition to the Glock G22. Their guns were jamming on the qualification line before they hit the streets
 
mavracer said:
As a PSA (public service announcement) PSA (palmetto state armory) has LE trade in M&P 40s for $279.99
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Gun store two hours from me has trade in USP, for $300.00. Been tempted to take the drive and handpick one and save the shipping and transfer fee. But haven just got the Beretta and the need to stop buying for a while I think I'll just not do it.

However a local gun store 30 minutes away also has those M&P for same price you listed.
 
I do not own any, but would bet they are ALL fantastic guns. But being a Beretta Fan, I have always thought and wanted a PX4. and the only time I have considered a 40. cal is the PX. And I love the way they look, I know how the Nano and APX carry is low recoil from shooting them so often and the design and build is similar. So that would be m choice at this point. And just looking at one now, fuels that flame to get on.



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It is a miniature-size version of the ultra-reliable PX4 Storm, a double/single-action pistol that keeps gaining an enthusiastic following among military and police organizations worldwide. The SubCompact does not sacrifice any of the features of its larger counterpart, while offering superior concealability and light weight.


Low-Recoil3.jpg Low Recoil in a Lightweight Package
In spite of its diminutive size, the Px4 Storm SubCompact was designed to be pleasant to shoot, offering minimal muzzle-jump and keeping recoil mild. The tilt-breech system was designed to work with the rest of the frame to dissipate both the kick in the web of the shooting hand and the muzzle rise that happens at every shot, making this handgun far less punishing on the hand than others in its class, the PX4 SubCompact is quick back on target--a best-of-both-worlds situation combining superior concealment and low weight with a full-size shooting experience.
 
Jeb Stuart said:
The SubCompact does not sacrifice any of the features of its larger counterpart, ...
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Probably the key feature of the Beretta PX4 is the rotating barrel. The SubCompact sacrifices that feature in order to function in such a small size.
 
Jeb Stuart said:
I do not own any, but would bet they are ALL fantastic guns. But being a Beretta Fan, I have always thought and wanted a PX4. and the only time I have considered a 40. cal is the PX. And I love the way they look, I know how the Nano and APX carry is low recoil from shooting them so often and the design and build is similar. So that would be m choice at this point. And just looking at one now, fuels that flame to get on.



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It is a miniature-size version of the ultra-reliable PX4 Storm, a double/single-action pistol that keeps gaining an enthusiastic following among military and police organizations worldwide. The SubCompact does not sacrifice any of the features of its larger counterpart, while offering superior concealability and light weight.


View attachment 882990Low Recoil in a Lightweight Package
In spite of its diminutive size, the Px4 Storm SubCompact was designed to be pleasant to shoot, offering minimal muzzle-jump and keeping recoil mild. The tilt-breech system was designed to work with the rest of the frame to dissipate both the kick in the web of the shooting hand and the muzzle rise that happens at every shot, making this handgun far less punishing on the hand than others in its class, the PX4 SubCompact is quick back on target--a best-of-both-worlds situation combining superior concealment and low weight with a full-size shooting experience.
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The Gander Mountain Local to me would offload these .40 PX4 subcompacts to women, new shooters, who liked the look and feel. The shop I was working at at the time bought more than one after the very first range trip. They reported absolutely brutal recoil and their husbands didn't even want them. They traded for subcompact Glock and Taurus 9s and only came back for more ammo.
 
Not according to the majority owners on the Beretta forum that own them. The Sub-compact still has that low recoil, low muzzle flip. Maybe the rotating barrel reduces them, but the design speaks for itself. Regardless, as I said, I am sure they all are great guns, just my choice.
 
BarryHalls said:
The Gander Mountain Local to me would offload these .40 PX4 subcompacts to women, new shooters, who liked the look and feel. The shop I was working at at the time bought more than one after the very first range trip. They reported absolutely brutal recoil and their husbands didn't even want them. They traded for subcompact Glock and Taurus 9s and only came back for more ammo.
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No, say it isn't true. A Taurus 9mm that fanctions? <Joking>. G2 Owner.
 
BarryHalls said:
The Gander Mountain Local to me would offload these .40 PX4 subcompacts to women, new shooters, who liked the look and feel. The shop I was working at at the time bought more than one after the very first range trip. They reported absolutely brutal recoil and their husbands didn't even want them. They traded for subcompact Glock and Taurus 9s and only came back for more ammo.
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Lol, I do not buy that at all Sorry but someone fed you some kind of BS. Is that what the guy behind the counter told you? For gosh sake the recoil is only rated at 7.58 lbs.The 9mm at a ridiculous low recoil rate of 4.9. And all owners always speak of the low muzzle flip.
The Taurus 9S at 7.66 and it weighs 28oz. the Glock 27 at 9.6.
 
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Jeb Stuart said:
Lol, I do not buy that at all Sorry but think someone fed you some kind of BS. Is that what the guy behind the counter told you? For gosh sake the recoil is only rated at 7.58 lbs. The Taurus 9S at 7.66 and it weighs 28oz. the Glock 27 at 9.6.
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I was the guy behind the counter. These women told their stories to me, and I bought their PX4s and sold them 9mms.

Believe what you want, but there is more to recoil than just mass and spring especially crossing calibers.
 
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