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CajunBass

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Well, I had my first "problem" with the 2020 Python yesterday. At one point it skipped advancing the cylinder and the hammer fell on an already fired cartridge. A brief stop and it continued to function in dry fire mode, so I went back to shooting. In a couple of cylinders, it did the same thing.

This time I stopped and looked things over closely and found that the two screws on the left side of the gun were loose. If you look at the pictures, you'll see a screw about middle of the trigger guard, and there is another under the grips that you can't see. The one in the middle of the trigger guard was so loose, the sideplate was starting to come up. Since the sideplate is used to hold all the internals in place, that was allowing them to come out of alignment with each other. (This is as I understand it from what people who know a lot more about the internals tell me. I ain't that smart.)

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It took about thirty seconds to find a screwdriver in my bag, a minute to remove the grips, and a few more seconds to snug each screw down, and flip the gun over and check the one on the right side. It was OK.

I had 450 or so rounds through it at this point, almost all of them being 357 Magnums. After I tightened up the screws, I went back to shooting with no more problems and have dry fired it another hundred or so times. I'm sure that was, and has resolved the "problem." I have purple locktite on order and will put a dab on those screws when it arrives.

So, other than that, I'm up to 500 rounds with no real problems. No, I don't consider having to snug a screw to be a "problem."
 
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I'm not going to Locktite them right away. I just wanted to have some in case it's needed. I've got them snugged up tight now, and I'll see how they do in the future before doing anything drastic.
 
Well, I had my first "problem" with the 2020 Python yesterday. At one point it skipped advancing the cylinder and the hammer fell on an already fired cartridge. A brief stop and it continued to function in dry fire mode, so I went back to shooting. In a couple of cylinders, it did the same thing.

This time I stopped and looked things over closely and found that the two screws on the left side of the gun were loose. If you look at the pictures, you'll see a screw about middle of the trigger guard, and there is another under the grips that you can't see. The one in the middle of the trigger guard was so loose, the sideplate was starting to come up. Since the sideplate is used to hold all the internals in place, that was allowing them to come out of alignment with each other. (This is as I understand it from what people who know a lot more about the internals tell me. I ain't that smart.)

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It took about thirty seconds to find a screwdriver in my bag, a minute to remove the grips, and a few more seconds to snug each screw down, and flip the gun over and check the one on the right side. It was OK.

I had 450 or so rounds through it at this point, almost all of them being 357 Magnums. After I tightened up the screws, I went back to shooting with no more problems and have dry fired it another hundred or so times. I'm sure that was, and has resolved the "problem." I have purple locktite on order and will put a dab on those screws when it arrives.

So, other than that, I'm up to 500 rounds with no real problems. No, I don't consider having to snug a screw to be a "problem."
That gun is so pretty, I would be happy just sitting around just looking at it , I'm glad the things have been minor and things you can take care of yourself.
 
All three of my USFA .45’s will loosen screws over time, I previously owned Colt SAA’s that also loosened screws over time. I am sure that there are manufacturing techniques that minimize/ eliminate the loosing process; I always thought it normal with my revolvers so I check/ “snug” them every once in a while.
 
Too bad SIG couldnt blame P320 drop-fires on loose screws.......:rofl:

Now that I think about it, does a 320 have ANY screws?

But, seriously, Ive had plenty of gun screws back out over the years and dont mind snuggingvthem in with a little loctite.

On the other hand, many automotive fasteners, like torque converter bolts, come with thread locker already applied. Dont know why a gunmaker couldnt do that too, especially on their flagship product.

Seems like the cost would be insignificant compared to bad PR such silly things create.
 
My wife bought me a used 2019 King Cobra for Valentine’s Day (no, she doesn’t have a sister.) First thing I did was take the grips off and check the side plate screws. Both were loose. I put some blue loctite on them and went to the range. 100 rounds of .38 special and fifty rounds of .357 and only one light primer strike. These were all my reloads so I don’t consider one light primer strike a gun problem. The .357 loads were 125gr over a max charge of H100. The little King Cobra soaked them up like they were nothing.
 
Too bad SIG couldnt blame P320 drop-fires on loose screws.......:rofl:

Now that I think about it, does a 320 have ANY screws?

But, seriously, Ive had plenty of gun screws back out over the years and dont mind snuggingvthem in with a little loctite.

On the other hand, many automotive fasteners, like torque converter bolts, come with thread locker already applied. Dont know why a gunmaker couldnt do that too, especially on their flagship product.

Seems like the cost would be insignificant compared to bad PR such silly things create.
They often do. I think with the .454 and .480 Super Blackhawks, Ruger actually dips them in Loctite. :p
 
Wouldn't it be both funny and sad if after all the Chicken Littling, mostly from folks who'd never buy one anyway, this whole debacle boiled down to some loose screws?

I would personally be thrilled, still on the hunt for a 4.25” to try out in person before I fill out the 4473.

A few years ago my dad bought a S&W 986 Pro because he’s a revolver guy and wanted to be able to shoot plentiful cheap 9mm. The gun shoots well, and he enjoys it. Oddly when he visited last time we hit my range and discovered the side plate had come loose on it. So I donated a bit out of my screw driver set that fit those screws and he snugged them up. Strangely enough the DA trigger was immediately improved, and we continued shooting. No issues since then and he now regularly checks the side plate screws.
 
I’ve had screws come loose over the years on a few of my guns but never on a new gun with only 500 rounds through it.

Screws loosening over time from sustained shooting is one thing; untightened screws on guns coming from the factory is another. Is it really too much to expect a firearm costing over a thousand dollars (or a hundred bucks for that matter) to come from the factory with the screws appropriately snugged down?
 
I was admiring one of my El Patron Single Actions just last night. I noticed the hammer screw head looked a bit proud of the frame so I grabbed a screw driver. Sure enough I got nearly a full turn on it. Then I checked the rest of the screws. Every one of them was loose to one degree or another. This gun has less than 250 rounds through it, all .357 mag. I wasn't bothered at all that I had to tighten the screws, to me it's just part of the shooting hobby. No big deal.
I'm sure the screws are all set to a certain torque from the factory to keep the assemblers from stripping them or buggering the screw heads. I just tighten them when necessary and move on.
 
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