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To give everyone here a little hope for the future, I found 4200 cci 500 and 550 mixed quantity and purchased for $70 dollars a thousand.

The hope is they were aviable at gun store, not the price..... I hope the price returns to below $40 or lower.

Has anyone else found primers locally from a store and not individuals?
 
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They've been showing up off and on at our local Bass Pro for a couple of months now. Two deliveries ago they were $75 a brick. A week ago they were down to $64.99. That's still more than I'm willing to pay, so I passed.
 
My neighbors son told me he saw LRP and SPP at the local gun shop two days ago, $7.00 per hundred. He didn't know if there was a limit. I was on my way to work so didn't stop to check and can't verify, but it looks like we have turned the corner and things are starting to loosen up a bit.

chris
 
Has anyone else found primers locally from a store and not individuals?
Yes. Starting about 2 weeks ago. Actually got a call from one of the small shops to let me know as I helped them out with large pistol primers last year.
 
I like these anecdotes about availability of primers at this and that LGS or even large chain, but none of that helps me...

Here in the People’s Republic of Fairfax, there are only a small handful of gun stores and none sell components. The closest Cabelas is 30 or so miles away—a long drive to speculate on availability of anything (and their online inventory checker is a hoax).

At the last gun show the three typical reloading suppliers didn’t even show up.

So, it’s online availability for me and with a 1K limit per purchase, the hazmat and shipping put the price at $100. That’s some ‘spensive shootin.
 
Kygunco has primers for $80, yesterday. Last go round before that, they were $135.

I bought some from a private person for $65. Same price per primer that academy has them for very occasionally. But they only sell you 2 pads.

Shame when the gov was giving free money out, the primers were all gone. Now that the money's gone, the primers are coming back. Oh well, I did double my stash of 22s an got 2 flats of shotgun shells. As well as a few bricks I primers.
 
Someone local mentioned they bought primers at the one LGS for 44.00 a 1000. Up 10.00 from pre-plandemic prices.

Pre pandemic primers were only$23.99 at our local Sportsman's Warehouse. I was actually able to buy a brick of CCI small pistol from them at that price back in January. They had them stashed behind the counter, and I got a brick when I inquired.
 
To give everyone here a little hope for the future, I found 4200 cci 500 and 550 mixed quantity and purchased for $70 dollars a thousand.

The hope is they were aviable at gun store, not the price..... I hope the price returns to below $40 or lower.

Has anyone else found primers locally from a store and not individuals?
LGS has had primers for several months. They started out at $65 a brick. Now $99. Now nobody is buying them. Bass Pro has Primers too. Limit one sleeve a Person $7.99. Glad I already have plenty.
 
My local Cabela's (aka Bass Pro) hasn't been jacking prices up, well, not much, $49 per 1k, but their primers don't stay in stock for very long.
Another LGS that quit carrying reloading supplies 2 years ago suddenly has primers for $125 per 1k.
People are not buying them. I wanted to hock a lugey on their window but didn't because someone accused me of being civilized once.
 
Well, ya know, I've been doing some thinking about this problem from a marketing standpoint.

There are two ways, basically, to make money in sales. Sell at a small profit margin, but sell a boat load of them, or sell low volume, but at a very high profit margin. Normally, the market doesn't support the second option.

Competition, and a careful buying public normally keeps prices, (and therefore profit margin), low. So you have to put out a good product, promote it well, and hope to sell a bunch in order to make money.

But, if you could possibly get away with it, selling fewer items at a much higher profit margin is far and away the better way to go. Less manufacturing costs in every area; energy costs, labor costs, tooling wear, distribution, headaches in general, etc., etc., etc. Selling low volume at very high profit margins is a DREAM for sellers. It's something we learned from the Arabs and their oil, and is very effective. Create a shortage, get the consumers scared, then sell LESS for MORE as detailed above. It's a seller's heaven.

So guys, until we stop supporting this artificial market by buying all we can find at the higher prices, there is virtually no incentive for it to change. Truly, it would be foolish business practice to change things as they currently sit. But if we quit buying, sooner or later one manufacturer will break away, lower prices, and then the race will be on. Free market enterprise will take over, and competition will set prices; not fear!

Vettepilot
 
Well, ya know, I've been doing some thinking about this problem from a marketing standpoint.

There are two ways, basically, to make money in sales. Sell at a small profit margin, but sell a boat load of them, or sell low volume, but at a very high profit margin. Normally, the market doesn't support the second option.

Competition, and a careful buying public normally keeps prices, (and therefore profit margin), low. So you have to put out a good product, promote it well, and hope to sell a bunch in order to make money.

But, if you could possibly get away with it, selling fewer items at a much higher profit margin is far and away the better way to go. Less manufacturing costs in every area; energy costs, labor costs, tooling wear, distribution, headaches in general, etc., etc., etc. Selling low volume at very high profit margins is a DREAM for sellers. It's something we learned from the Arabs and their oil, and is very effective. Create a shortage, get the consumers scared, then sell LESS for MORE as detailed above. It's a seller's heaven.

So guys, until we stop supporting this artificial market by buying all we can find at the higher prices, there is virtually no incentive for it to change. Truly, it would be foolish business practice to change things as they currently sit. But if we quit buying, sooner or later one manufacturer will break away, lower prices, and then the race will be on. Free market enterprise will take over, and competition will set prices; not fear!

Vettepilot
Excellent points. You do this and I’ll scoop up your share...I’m not too concerned with price BUT finding primers is too difficult.
 
Found some at a local box retailer last Tuesday. SPM, CCI. They still had a strict limit of 2, but the price was 3.99/100, same as before the shortage. I'm on good terms with the gun counter guy, and he looked up the wholesale price. It was unchanged from pre-shortage. You guys paying more are getting gouged, and most of the common retailers are doing it.
 
To give everyone here a little hope for the future, I found 4200 cci 500 and 550 mixed quantity and purchased for $70 dollars a thousand.

The hope is they were aviable at gun store, not the price..... I hope the price returns to below $40 or lower.

Has anyone else found primers locally from a store and not individuals?
Live in the Florida Panhandle and don't really travel much outside of 50mile due to handicap. We have 5 LGS's in that area but haven't seen a primer in ANY of them since Feb. and only occasionally powder. Have really cut down on my trips to the range because I STILL won't pay more than $.05 a primer.
 
I like these anecdotes about availability of primers at this and that LGS or even large chain, but none of that helps me...

Here in the People’s Republic of Fairfax, there are only a small handful of gun stores and none sell components. The closest Cabelas is 30 or so miles away—a long drive to speculate on availability of anything (and their online inventory checker is a hoax).

At the last gun show the three typical reloading suppliers didn’t even show up.

So, it’s online availability for me and with a 1K limit per purchase, the hazmat and shipping put the price at $100. That’s some ‘spensive shootin.
Yeah, I always enjoy the, "Never had a problem here, full shelves and no price increases! Great to be me, sux to be you, bwaaahahahaha!!!" comments. Some people got no class.

Some of the locals have really tried to restock but prices are high and availability is low. The small shops just don't have any buying power - especially compared to the big box places 100 miles South of us. They've got spotty inventory and limits but the prices are decent enough when they have inventory. One of my co-workers said the BP in Gatorville had SP and SR primers for $7/100 one day, limit 3 per customer per day. They had them for almost two hours before they ran out! He got three but by the time he got his wife to go get some they were out. That's the best price I've heard about where somebody actually got to buy some locally in over a year.
 
Here in the People’s Republic of Fairfax, there are only a small handful of gun stores and none sell components.

There was a place years ago called "The Reloading Bench", I think it was in Alexandria. Not sure if they are still in business.

There also were several gun shops near Gainesville, or thereabouts, when I left Virginia two years ago.

And don't forget the gun shows. Chantilly is huge, but the one in Woodbridge at the VFW was always interesting to me, lots of antique military stuff if that's your thing.

I'm pretty familiar with Northern VA and if you don't mind a drive west you can probably find something. Make a day of it and just go shop to shop, never know what you might stumble across.

chris
 
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