1849 Colt Questions

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Re-cutting that half-cock notch is a very delicate job, but an easy one, because all you need is a hacksaw blade (rather than the suggested needle file). Take the hammer out of the revolver and clamp it in a bench vise with protective jaws. Take a hacksaw blade and lay it into what remains of the half-cock notch, then slowly and carefully begin to draw it back and forth against the old notch, taking care to keep the hacksaw blade horizontal. When you have a visibly noticable new notch about the depth of one hacksaw blade tooth, then stop! Do not try to go anywhere near the depth of the original notch. Reassemble the revolver and test the hammer.
 
hrt4me said:
Re-cutting that half-cock notch is a very delicate job, but an easy one, because all you need is a hacksaw blade (rather than the suggested needle file). Take the hammer out of the revolver and clamp it in a bench vise with protective jaws. Take a hacksaw blade and lay it into what remains of the half-cock notch, then slowly and carefully begin to draw it back and forth against the old notch, taking care to keep the hacksaw blade horizontal. When you have a visibly noticable new notch about the depth of one hacksaw blade tooth, then stop! Do not try to go anywhere near the depth of the original notch. Reassemble the revolver and test the hammer.
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I looked at that initially and it seemed to me that the blade was a bit thick. I'll look again. Maybe there is a thinner blade than i have.

Thanks.
 
Johnm1 said:
I looked at that initially and it seemed to me that the blade was a bit thick. I'll look again. Maybe there is a thinner blade than i have.

Thanks.
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I just learned that there was a number 9 cap in a search for something else. Let's see if they can be found in this day and age.
 
Johnm1 said:
I will look in the morning. All of the needle files I have are too thick to make a cut that small. Thanks again.

With all the rain recently I'm considering going out to Florence Junction this weekend to shoot the Queen Anne and this 1849 in an setting that isn't the range at Rio. I'm going to try the 4F in both.
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Johnm1, Good morning to you. How did that 4F work for you in the 1849? Curious to know your experience. Thank you, Tim
 
Johnm1 said:
I haven't been able to get out to try yet. Life, unfortunately, gets in the way of what I really want to do.
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Johnm1...Tim here. Just revisiting this to see if life has given you some time to try that 4F in that 1849? Hope all is well with you. Look forward to hearing about it when you do, If ya haven't already? :thumbup:
 
Not yet. I’ve been tinkering with the 1860 and haven’t made it to the range/desert yet. I’m real interested too.
 
I get it. I don't seem to have much time these days either? Who invented this thing called "Time" anyway? Hope you have a nice weekend and many thanks for the reply. I'm looking at buying a Pietta 1860? Any thoughts regarding the "Best" 1860? Brand to purchase?
 
Zulch said:
Any thoughts regarding the "Best" 1860? Brand to purchase?
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I’m still new at this black powder thing. So I’m not the one to ask really. I think they all have their issues though. As I understand it Uberti has the most accurate reproductions and the best fit/finish. but I think they still suffer from the short arbor.l. Piettas has been known to produce pure ‘fantasy’ guns. But I don’t know if that is still true.

Mine is an older ASM (now defunct) and I’m just having fun tinkering with it.
 
Johnm1 said:
I’m still new at this black powder thing. So I’m not the one to ask really. I think they all have their issues though. As I understand it Uberti has the most accurate reproductions and the best fit/finish. but I think they still suffer from the short arbor.l. Piettas has been known to produce pure ‘fantasy’ guns. But I don’t know if that is still true.

Mine is an older ASM (now defunct) and I’m just having fun tinkering with it.
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Johnm1. Hi. Thanks. I don’t own an ASM but I’ve got bug now from having read many good things about their revolvers. Also, the E.N. Santa Barbara’s being high quality replicas? I do believe they no longer produce either? It sounds like you really like your 1860 A. San Marco, :thumbup:??
 
I have an early production ASM '49 Pocket. I would not recommend their pocket revolvers to anyone that doesn't want a "project gun". I also have a Uberti pocket, other than the Uberti arbor issue it is far superior.
 
Consider that I picked up the ASM disassembled as a parts gun with some parts in a bag for $79. It had no finish and the only reason I bought it was to practice rust bluing. I got it to shoot with some parts and I’m using it to learn on. I do enjoy it but I’d have enjoyed any other manufacturers reproduction in the same condition.

Other than this one I really have no opinion on ASM. I can parrot what I’ve heard though. Apparently at one time ASM produced a decent product but quality declined in the years close to their closing.
 
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I have an early production ASM '49 Pocket. I would not recommend their pocket revolvers
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So. here I go contradicting what I just wrote. I forget that I do own an ASM Remington 1863 Pocket that other than being a bit frail is nicely finished. I did manage to break the rather flimsy loading lever.

Overall ASM appears to not be your best bet.
 
Johnm1 said:
Consider that I picked up the ASM disassembled as a parts gun with some parts in a bag for $79. It had no finish and the only reason I bought it was to practice rust bluing. I got it to shoot with some parts and I’m using it to learn on. I do enjoy it but I’d have enjoyed any other manufacturers reproduction in the same condition.

Other than this one I really have no opinion on ASM. I can parrot what I’ve heard though. Apparently at one time ASM produced a decent product but quality declined in the years close to their closing.
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Johnm1. Hi. It sounds like you've "enjoyed" yourself, tinkering with that ASM and to me,,? that's what it's all about, enjoyment :thumbup:. Do you or does anyone out there, know anything about the E.N. Santa Barbara revolvers that were made in Spain? I haven't see them out there for re sale? That may be an indication in itself. Maybe I am imagining that they really existed? :rofl: Welcome any information on those. :thumbup:
 
I own 5 ASM revolvers, 4 are good quality, one not so much. I think they were all made within a few years of one another. So it's kind of a crap shoot as to quality on these guys. That being said once the guns are gone through and tuned they seem to be pretty decent.
 
Johnm1 said:
Consider that I picked up the ASM disassembled as a parts gun with some parts in a bag for $79. It had no finish and the only reason I bought it was to practice rust bluing. I got it to shoot with some parts and I’m using it to learn on. I do enjoy it but I’d have enjoyed any other manufacturers reproduction in the same condition.

Other than this one I really have no opinion on ASM. I can parrot what I’ve heard though. Apparently at one time ASM produced a decent product but quality declined in the years close to their closing.
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In the early 1990s I saw a Colt 1861 repro in a box in a lgs. It was a very nice gun, I assumed it was a Uberti because at the time Uberti was the only company that put safety pins on their Navy revolvers. But looking at it closely I discovered it was ASM!

I believe you're correct that their early products were good but they declined in their later years.
 
Zulch said:
Do you or does anyone out there, know anything about the E.N. Santa Barbara revolvers that were made in Spain?
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While I do not have any personal experience with these Spanish revolvers, I have seen their RMA clones consistently go for more than equally maintained Italian models on GB as well as at the brick and mortar auction houses. I am not sure whether this is due to their scarcity or their quality???
 
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Ephraim Kibbey said:
While I do not have any personal experience with these Spanish revolvers, I have seen their RMA clones consistently go for more than equally maintained Italian models on GB as well as at the brick and mortar auction houses. I am not sure whether this is due to their scarcity or their quality???
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thank you sir. I appreciate your input very much :thumbup:
Tim
 
Tommygunn said:
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In the early 1990s I saw a Colt 1861 repro in a box in a lgs. It was a very nice gun, I assumed it was a Uberti because at the time Uberti was the only company that put safety pins on their Navy revolvers. But looking at it closely I discovered it was ASM!

I believe you're correct that their early products were good but they declined in their later years.
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Tommygun,
Good morning sir. So, did you not buy that ASM? Just curious. thanks Tim
 
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