Mark_Mark
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that’s some bling gunsLuckily BUL Armory took over where they left off.
https://www.usa.bularmory.com/product-page/sas-ii-ur
that’s some bling gunsLuckily BUL Armory took over where they left off.
https://www.usa.bularmory.com/product-page/sas-ii-ur
You sure of that? How many of them have you asked?Well, they're forced to use Glocks, they're not necessarily happy to have switched to them.
When uncle Sam is paying the bill - they go with the lowest bidder.
You sure of that? How many of them have you asked?
How many departments issue Staccatos to their officers?
I guess we would need to know how many department's actually issue weapons vs. department's where officers supply their own.
That answer would likely never be known as there are some 50000 +/- departments in the USA
^ Yeah, they even list the Texas Rangers. But look at what the Rangers and SWAT are actually issued....
https://sofrep.com/gear/texas-rangers-get-new-duty-guns-sig-sauer-p320/
Anyway, the big point to discuss is the real (or imagined) benefit the 2011 has over pretty much everything else out there. Is the $2400 price tag worth it or are we just talking status symbol?
I’m going to say what on all the STi lovers Mind… Staccato is not Cool! Operator and Tyrant gun now!
STi —— Come back to us! We Crying for a Space Gun with Gold barrel and Laser Canon optics and 6 port Comps and The racking bar and the big Stick 170mm mags!!!
not the same, STi was semi custom, off the shelve, and affordable. SV guns are $5,000+. Sti had guns like the Edge at $2,000, beautiful Limited at $3,000, DVC Open at $3,600, DVC 3Gun $3,000. STi was something a average guy/gal can save up for! I miss you STiCan't you get a gun from SV?
Our SWAT team... did a lot of testing and it's been performing very very well.
It’s seems the Stacattos are considered the most advanced and best lawsman’s sidearm yet by those who’ve handled them.
not the same, STi was semi custom, off the shelve, and affordable. SV guns are $5,000+. Sti had guns like the Edge at $2,000, beautiful Limited at $3,000, DVC Open at $3,600, DVC 3Gun $3,000. STi was something a average guy/gal can save up for! I miss you STi
they trimmed their line up to what 7 guns. Change their marketing to Police, military, and shooters with beards and cool patches. Bye Bye non-profit Competition guns is the new Moto.Just a guess but I assume that's where the market wanted to go. If Staccato sees a demand for a $3000 open gun then they will add one back into the lineup. Plus they do make the XL.
they trimmed their line up to what 7 guns. Change their marketing to Police, military, and shooters with beards and cool patches. Bye Bye non-profit Competition guns is the new Moto.
I’m not blaming a company for making a profit. Not blaming them for creating the high end Combat pistol market with moderate manufacturing processes and deliver a good gun at a good price. Not at all, Just Sour that I couldn’t get my way, so I’ll just keep ranting about the good old days.Again I say this is where the market wants them to go. Had they still been seeing almost a captured market with USPSA shooters they'd still be catering to that market.
I’m not blaming a company for making a profit. Not blaming them for creating the high end Combat pistol market with moderate manufacturing processes and deliver a good gun at a good price. Not at all, Just Sour that I couldn’t get my way, so I’ll just keep ranting about the good old days.
Ruger 2011! now that’s INTERESTING! I would like to see Ruger in the LE market with a 2011 style gun at a under $1000 price! not all departments can afford $3,000 Staccato’sSure. USPSA kept the 1911 relevant probably 30 years after the fact. But now when a shooter can buy a 320 Legion or X5 and pretty much run with it out of the box these companies had to do something.
What's kind of telling is that nobody has dusted the Para Ordnance label off and brought those guns back into production. A gun that had some LE (specifically FBI HRT) interest and then a decent showing in USPSA is gone. Todd Jarrett himself is now a Staccato spokesman.
Maybe as Staccato is able to get more and more LE interest we'll see Para come back. And I'm still kind of holding out hope that Ruger can make a Caspian frame hicap.
As I recall, Para Ordinance did not have a fantastic reputation. Pricey, poor function, expensive magazines, and not great customer service.
Ruger 2011! now that’s INTERESTING! I would like to see Ruger in the LE market with a 2011 style gun at a under $1000 price! not all departments can afford $3,000 Staccato’s