Illinois proposes tax on ammo to pay for trauma centers

In California about 9 years ago, Rob Reiner (of All in the Family fame) somehow jammed a rather large cigarette tax upon us, with the additional revenue$ supposedly going to more smoking prevention campaigns and cancer research. But as of last month, that account contains almost 5 billion dollars-----just sitting there----doing absolutely nothing. Of course the Dems here have been trying to figure out a way for years to get their grubby little paws on that cash and spend it on their own silly pet projects that have nothing to do with smoking, but hey, that's just SOP with these people....

Bet you begin to see alot more mail order ammo purchases there!

And then they'll either make it illegal to buy ammo via mail order, or they'll tax it so high no one can afford to shoot it.

Rob Reiner, by the way, has done all sorts of harmful things in the name of helping people. He makes good movies, but he has zero brains when it comes to public policy.

What is wrong with Illinois? Is Chicago the source of the troubles people continually deal with in Illinois or is there some sort of state-wide culture causing it?

Dr B, the problem is Chicago and many surrounding suburbs. The rest of the state for the most part is normal.

the rest of the state for the most part is normal

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Hence the reason we have a city down here called Normal,,,

Illinois faces many of the same probelms that other states face. Michigan is, in general, a very conservative place but the Detroit area has the high population so the state tends to lean in that direction. NY has NYC, MA has Boston, FL has, ummm, lots of old people from NY and NJ. IL has Chicago. I was at a hotel just outside Chicago a couple of months ago and there was a hand sanitizer dispenser in each elevator. This is apparently a county law? Why do we need a hand sanitizer mandated to be in an elevator? Get outside the Chicago area and IL is a great place to be.

That's really scary, the government doubles the price of gas and cigarettes with their taxes, ammo could be right behind.

Time to start buying all the equipment to completely manufacture your own ammo

Hence the reason we have a city down here called Normal,,,

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I used to live there...how are things?

I'm so glad I got out of that state!

Of course the Dems here have been trying to figure out a way for years to get their grubby little paws on that cash and spend it on their own silly pet projects that have nothing to do with smoking, but hey, that's just SOP with these people....

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Maybe those dems need to mimic my state's republicans who have managed to get their grubby little paws on cig taxes for pet projects that have nothing to do with smoking.

I propose a tax on Chicago politicians to help fund mental health clinics............

You know, I'd be willing to bet that nobody intends to outright control your purchase of ammunition-- That's merely a side benefit. This is a sin tax. Like tobacco. They figure that firearms are morally unpopular enough that the majority will simply nod and look the other way while they find another way to fleece the tax payer. Greed first. And if it just happens to benefit the gun control lobby, sure, good stuff.

Do they tax cars to pay for trauma centers?

Sounds like a punitive "sin tax" on ammo to me, too.

That's pretty much what it is, a "sin tax."

So tired of living here, wish I could move out of this state. The non-Chicagoland portion of IL isn't too bad, but I need to escape the reign of Potatohead.

Anyway, didn't the Village of Oak Park also propose a tax of sorts for their gun-owning residents as well? (For those who don't know, Oak Park is a suburb of Chicago)

Maybe those dems need to mimic my state's republicans who have managed to get their grubby little paws on cig taxes for pet projects that have nothing to do with smoking.

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Just an FYI, but this forum does prohibit speaking of politics and political parties in ways that don't relate to guns. Just letting you know.

Just an FYI, but this forum does prohibit speaking of politics and political parties in ways that don't relate to guns. Just letting you know.

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Huh, well then you better get busy reminding the countless right wing politcal posts that pretty much always chime in to derail posts. You know, like in this thread.

My point is that if this gun related bill is passed it wont be just democarats to misappropriate the funds.

I wonder...

Do guns REALLY cause most of the trauma cases, or do cars? I heard that power tools also cause a lot of traumatic injuries. Maybe those should be taxed out of existence, too.

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On the other hand, how does it help to stick one's head in the sand and ignore the political affiliation of the person who introduced this bill (D-Chicago, 14th District)?


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Not to derail but did anyone else notice that the picture with the caption ".223 rifle bullets" was actually a .223 round on top of .40 S&W?

Like everone else has said it's a sin tax. Hopefully it won't go anywhere but you never know.

In California about 9 years ago, Rob Reiner (of All in the Family fame) somehow jammed a rather large cigarette tax upon us, with the additional revenue$ supposedly going to more smoking prevention campaigns and cancer research. But as of last month, that account contains almost 5 billion dollars-----just sitting there----doing absolutely nothing. Of course the Dems here have been trying to figure out a way for years to get their grubby little paws on that cash and spend it on their own silly pet projects that have nothing to do with smoking, but hey, that's just SOP with these people....

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We have the same BS here. The gov. keeps raising taxes on tobacco, alcohol and fossil fuels under the auspices of discouraging people to use them because of the damage they do, which at least sounds somewhat credible if they actually invested any of the billions they collect into tobacco/alcohol prevention and research on alternative fuels.

But instead it all ends up being used by the gov. for totally unrelated things. The petrol prices are at an all time high of €1.83 per liter, of which more than 75% goes to the gov's pocket! The most stupid thing of all, they say they collect taxes on petrol, diesel and LPG to discourage the use of carbon emitting fuels and encourage people to use alternatives and drive more fuel efficient cars. Yet when people started making their own biodiesel to use in specially adapted cars, they were handed out heavy fines for using untaxable fuels. However, due to an (intentionally) complicated bureaucracy, paying taxes on the much cheaper and environmentally friendly biodiesel is impossible so the only options that remain are buying the heavilly taxed and environmentally unfriendly petrol, diesel and lpg. How twisted is that?!!

The city of Chicago already taxes firearms and their owners, in addition to the FOID for the State of Illinois, there is a $100 registration fee for a CFP (Chicago Firearm Permit) and $15.00 per firearm registration fee as well as annual reporting.

And as to the State of Illinois taxing ammo sales, they currently do and if you purchase anything out of state, mail order or otherwise, you are required to enter the amount on your Illinois 1040 tax return and pay the taxes on it.

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Jim

Folks, it's Illinois. Why do we expect any different. I do sympathise with all the regular, salt of the earth folks that live south of the Illinois river (or I-88 or whatever arbitrary line you'd draw to separate the state of Illinois from "Chicagoland", the tentacles of which reach into Indiana and even Wisconsin.

At some point, that state is going to have to split up into the two states it really is and there'd be Illinois (the part south of the river) and then there'd be Chicago and then we'd have two (NY NY = Chicago, Chicago).

There, all fixed.

In Tennessee, there is a $0.10 state tax per box of ammunition. There is a stamp on each box of shells. This goes to fish & wildlife which seems like an okay idea to me since I support the agency in general. Some might get their ammunition on line to avoid the tax, but if the ammunition is available locally for a fair price, I buy it and pay the tax. I buy a hunting and fishing license annually even if I don't even make it out into the field simply because I support the program.

On the other hand, how does it help to stick one's head in the sand and ignore the political affiliation of the person who introduced this bill (D-Chicago, 14th District)?

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What does it contribute to point out he is a Democrat in this context? There are numerous Democrats who are pro gun and receive favorable ratings from the NRA. Yes, more dems are "anti gun" than republicans but there is no universal rule. Seeing a D and assuming antigun or a an R and assuming progun is what i would consider sticking one's head in the sand.

Not so much the party association, but the locale from which they represent.

In this bill, the money would go to "high crime areas". What area has higher crime than Chicago?