wwace
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Ok, I have read a bunch of threads with quite a bit of lousy information about bears, Alaska hunting or self defense including calibers, firearms and bullets. The following is my opinion based on personal knowledge and first person related experience.
A bear can be very easy or hard to kill, it all depends on bullet placement and the state of adrenaline of the bear. A very determined bear who is not broken down or CNS hit is literally not going to stop until it is dead. There are tales of kids killing Brownies with .22 long rifle and I have seen a grizzly shot a dozen times with .338 & 30-06, they are always unpredictable.
Hunting:
Rifles: Any modern 7mm or larger caliber with a properly constructed bullet of 160grains or larger is fine for hunting in Alaska unless you are specifically after a coastal Brownie or Kodiak. If you are after the larger bears take at least a 30-06 if you cannot handle a .338 win mag. You do not need anything larger but if you like them calibers up to .416 are ok. Your guide will most likely look at you funny if you show up with a 458 as they are brutal. Do not bring a rifle you cannot shoot well and trust with your life and the lives of your party.
SuperUltraDuperListicMagnums: The short answer is they are not needed for Alaskan game, you are much more likely to be unable to shoot one of these portable cannons consistently.
Action: A good reliable bolt action is the best without any doubt, CRF is adviseable and I highly recommend it. Most hunters here do not use doubles but if I was guiding you I would not be unhappy if you showed up with a single shot Ruger #1. Semi auto, pump and lever actions all have too many moving parts to be considered in my opinion. None of these actions are 100% reliable in Alaskan conditions in rifle calibers.
Sights/Scopes: If you are hunting bears specifically then a low power scope such as a 1.5x5 is usually best. This is what I have used for over 20 years. I would also recommend that your rifle be equipped with iron sights and you have quick detach scope mounts. If you are hunting moose or caribou etc then a 3x9 or 4x12 or something similar is all you need. Spend some money and get quality glass , same with binoculars. You do not need $1000 + optics though they are nice if you can afford them. Personally I use Leupold, Nikon and Burris.
Ammunition: Modern bonded bullets with controlled expansion and high bullet weight retention will work best. Bullets that do not penetrate well will not kill anything here well, bears especially so. My favorites are TBBC, Swift A frames and Accubonds. I do not like Barnes TSX type bullets as I have witnessed very poor performance from them and I do not allow them in my camp.
Solids: You want penetration but this is one case where a solid may not have very good results. If you hit a bear with one and it does not hit the vitals or bone it may have little or no effect on the bear.
Shot Placement: This is the key factor with bears. If you do not hit CNS, vital organs or major bones you just piss off the bear more. Study how bears are built and learn proper placement. Viewed from the side divide him in half and hit him dead center of front half, front leg forward if possible you should shoot halfway up just at rear of leg. High or low shots will have poor results unless you spine him. If you are being charged and the range is close you basically aim at the nose. This is a tough shot, most people are going to have trouble hitting a bear doing 25mph or more and bouncing around until it is close. Ten yards is about your last chance of avoiding getting chewed on.
Self Defense: Each year many bears are shot in defense of life and property here in Alaska. And many more are killed that go unreported for various reasons I will not get into. Do not make the mistake of thinking a Black Bear cannot be dangerous. I had a friend killed and partially eaten by one that weighed about 150lbs. Any bear can be dangerous. I recommend that you always carry bear spray at minimum, even if you are hiking or biking on the edge of town. If you are out in the boonies I highly suggest a firearm as well.
Always have proper training and follow instructions and common sense with pepper spray and firearms. The following are my opinions as to what I would use:
1 12 gauge pump with slugs or slugs/00 buckshot. I have seen several thread where 12ga slugs were disregarded for bear protection because of poor penetration. This is ridiculous. A decent 12 gauge slug will penetrate a bear nearly end to end and is the single best round for close in bear stopping. For smaller bears buckshot also works well doing lots of damage but for the big guys you basically want slugs.
2 Large caliber rifle with quality bullets, expansion must be controlled or you will not get adequate penetration. I still prefer a bolt action for self defense for the same reasons I hunt with one, they work. If all you have is a lever action please use hard cast bullets or they will do little in the way of penetration.
3 Any other rifle, any rifle will do in a pinch, many bears have been killed by the Eskimo people with nothing more than a 222 Remington, but then again they knew what they were doing.
4 Large caliber revolver, 44mag or up loaded with hard cast lead works with the right placement, be practiced with your gun.
5 Any other handgun, 357 mag, 10mm best but any gun is better than nothing. You may not want hollowpoints here.
Remember in any case that if you are being charged and you kill a bear your story will be investigated. Many bears bluff charge to 6 or 7 yards, you need to analyze the situation quickly and correctly and make the proper decisions under great duress. An aggressive bear at close range will test you and your undies.
So in summary for Alaska and anywhere else for that matter it is best to use what works and has always worked. The widely used .338 winmag is the most popular rifle in Alaska. Stay with reasonable velocities and quality ammunition. You do not need some boutique AR caliber to shoot a bear with. Most people here would laugh at you if you showed up with one. Same goes for lever and pump actions, we tend to look at these as deer rifles and not use them here. I have one friend who has always used a BAR 338 even though it has had problems several times. Not me, I will stay with a Mauser type action for hunting and the 12 ga for specific defense work.
A bear can be very easy or hard to kill, it all depends on bullet placement and the state of adrenaline of the bear. A very determined bear who is not broken down or CNS hit is literally not going to stop until it is dead. There are tales of kids killing Brownies with .22 long rifle and I have seen a grizzly shot a dozen times with .338 & 30-06, they are always unpredictable.
Hunting:
Rifles: Any modern 7mm or larger caliber with a properly constructed bullet of 160grains or larger is fine for hunting in Alaska unless you are specifically after a coastal Brownie or Kodiak. If you are after the larger bears take at least a 30-06 if you cannot handle a .338 win mag. You do not need anything larger but if you like them calibers up to .416 are ok. Your guide will most likely look at you funny if you show up with a 458 as they are brutal. Do not bring a rifle you cannot shoot well and trust with your life and the lives of your party.
SuperUltraDuperListicMagnums: The short answer is they are not needed for Alaskan game, you are much more likely to be unable to shoot one of these portable cannons consistently.
Action: A good reliable bolt action is the best without any doubt, CRF is adviseable and I highly recommend it. Most hunters here do not use doubles but if I was guiding you I would not be unhappy if you showed up with a single shot Ruger #1. Semi auto, pump and lever actions all have too many moving parts to be considered in my opinion. None of these actions are 100% reliable in Alaskan conditions in rifle calibers.
Sights/Scopes: If you are hunting bears specifically then a low power scope such as a 1.5x5 is usually best. This is what I have used for over 20 years. I would also recommend that your rifle be equipped with iron sights and you have quick detach scope mounts. If you are hunting moose or caribou etc then a 3x9 or 4x12 or something similar is all you need. Spend some money and get quality glass , same with binoculars. You do not need $1000 + optics though they are nice if you can afford them. Personally I use Leupold, Nikon and Burris.
Ammunition: Modern bonded bullets with controlled expansion and high bullet weight retention will work best. Bullets that do not penetrate well will not kill anything here well, bears especially so. My favorites are TBBC, Swift A frames and Accubonds. I do not like Barnes TSX type bullets as I have witnessed very poor performance from them and I do not allow them in my camp.
Solids: You want penetration but this is one case where a solid may not have very good results. If you hit a bear with one and it does not hit the vitals or bone it may have little or no effect on the bear.
Shot Placement: This is the key factor with bears. If you do not hit CNS, vital organs or major bones you just piss off the bear more. Study how bears are built and learn proper placement. Viewed from the side divide him in half and hit him dead center of front half, front leg forward if possible you should shoot halfway up just at rear of leg. High or low shots will have poor results unless you spine him. If you are being charged and the range is close you basically aim at the nose. This is a tough shot, most people are going to have trouble hitting a bear doing 25mph or more and bouncing around until it is close. Ten yards is about your last chance of avoiding getting chewed on.
Self Defense: Each year many bears are shot in defense of life and property here in Alaska. And many more are killed that go unreported for various reasons I will not get into. Do not make the mistake of thinking a Black Bear cannot be dangerous. I had a friend killed and partially eaten by one that weighed about 150lbs. Any bear can be dangerous. I recommend that you always carry bear spray at minimum, even if you are hiking or biking on the edge of town. If you are out in the boonies I highly suggest a firearm as well.
Always have proper training and follow instructions and common sense with pepper spray and firearms. The following are my opinions as to what I would use:
1 12 gauge pump with slugs or slugs/00 buckshot. I have seen several thread where 12ga slugs were disregarded for bear protection because of poor penetration. This is ridiculous. A decent 12 gauge slug will penetrate a bear nearly end to end and is the single best round for close in bear stopping. For smaller bears buckshot also works well doing lots of damage but for the big guys you basically want slugs.
2 Large caliber rifle with quality bullets, expansion must be controlled or you will not get adequate penetration. I still prefer a bolt action for self defense for the same reasons I hunt with one, they work. If all you have is a lever action please use hard cast bullets or they will do little in the way of penetration.
3 Any other rifle, any rifle will do in a pinch, many bears have been killed by the Eskimo people with nothing more than a 222 Remington, but then again they knew what they were doing.
4 Large caliber revolver, 44mag or up loaded with hard cast lead works with the right placement, be practiced with your gun.
5 Any other handgun, 357 mag, 10mm best but any gun is better than nothing. You may not want hollowpoints here.
Remember in any case that if you are being charged and you kill a bear your story will be investigated. Many bears bluff charge to 6 or 7 yards, you need to analyze the situation quickly and correctly and make the proper decisions under great duress. An aggressive bear at close range will test you and your undies.
So in summary for Alaska and anywhere else for that matter it is best to use what works and has always worked. The widely used .338 winmag is the most popular rifle in Alaska. Stay with reasonable velocities and quality ammunition. You do not need some boutique AR caliber to shoot a bear with. Most people here would laugh at you if you showed up with one. Same goes for lever and pump actions, we tend to look at these as deer rifles and not use them here. I have one friend who has always used a BAR 338 even though it has had problems several times. Not me, I will stay with a Mauser type action for hunting and the 12 ga for specific defense work.
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