Last one I got was a Taurus 845. A friend has one and it's great. It was my first plastic gun since the HK VP70 I had long ago. Out of the box, nothing but jams. It was super touchy about limpwristing. Only if held like I was trying to keep zombies from coming through a door would it even come close to feeding a whole mag. Tried swapping mags with my friend's gun and it was slightly better, so I took the mags apart and cleaned them, and deburred the followers and it helped, a little. Cleaned it all up, lubed it to ridiculous levels and put a bunch of ammo through it and it slowly got better, but was still touchy about grip, ammo, and I finally gave up after Taurus worked on it and it was worse than it was when I sent it. Not clear what they did to it, but to me, 1 out of three mags without any issue is not acceptable. I sold it at a loss to a friend who is going to experiment with it and see if he can figure out the problem. I'll stick with my S&W 4506, 4586, and Witness 45. All three are totally rock solid reliable, and can be held any way I want without any problems.