Sunday Night Football anti-gun sermon

Its nice to see alot of internet articles this morning sharing our opinions on costas. At least the whole country hasn't gone mad yet.

I just heard another sports commentator, Jim Gray, on Fox News agreeing with Costas. Their argument is no gun available means no murder or suicide. What about a kitchen knife, hammer, baseball bat, or his bare hands? Just because a gun is not present doesn't mean a murder can't happen. Plus to commit suicide he could have driven his car into a wall, or done it other ways.

I will turn off a NBC broadcast if Bob Costas is involved in any way.

The general public might be responding favorably to polls, but when it's time to vote for elected officials....

Not so supportive!

Saw this on the internet: guy said he could refute the whole line of argument with two letters. Not two words, two letters.

"O" and "J".

E-mail addresses

does anybody know how to get a direct email to mr. costas or nbc? i mean a direct route, not some flunky aide or secretary.

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lx2008: See post #34, where I give you the e-mail addresses for 4 NBC executives.

Gunnutery, you are correct. Many liberals own and carry guns. It isn't liberals, it is the "anti's" that is the problem. While fewer in numbers, there are still some in the conservative side. If my memory serves me correctly H.R. 6257 was proposed and supported by 4 conservatives, it never made it past committee. Anti's like Costas ruin events like this by putting personal opinion into things. It saddens me this happened, but a firearm is not to blame. I do encourage everyone to email NBC, about his remarks. In a calm level headed way, explain how his opinion can hurt their viewer numbers.

The best insidious take on it is a PR attempt to deflect from college and pro football exploiting young men for their own financial gains. Starting in HS, then college and then the PROs - these men are used as financial instruments. They are for the most part poorly educated and socialized. They suffer from serious neural injuries with little real support on how to deal with the world before their usefulness as an entertainer is over.

Then they fail in life. So to divert from this exploitation, we blame the firearm as causal.

Unfortunately, most of these young men don't have the family support or honest other advisers to avoid the exploitation. They are just seen as cash cows by their families, schools and pro teams.

Hey Costas, would it make ya feel any better if he'd have thrown her ass out of a window?

The best insidious take on it is a PR attempt to deflect from college and pro football exploiting young men for their own financial gains. Starting in HS, then college and then the PROs - these men are used as financial instruments. They are for the most part poorly educated and socialized. They suffer from serious neural injuries with little real support on how to deal with the world before their usefulness as an entertainer is over.

Then they fail in life. So to divert from this exploitation, we blame the firearm as causal.

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Very well put. this is the biggest reason to hit these guy's with some cold hard reality thet they are more of the problem than the tool.

hso said:

Fox hasn't been the supporter of the 2A the Fox fans like to claim. Here's just another example. Costas didn't start this, it started on Fox and he picked it up.

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Right, didn't Bill O'Reilly come out for stricter gun control after the Aurora, CO shootings?

Shame on you Bob Costas! I thought you were smarter than this.

I would be interested in knowing stats of other methods of suicide here in the U.S. I would bet more people overdose on drugs, or hang themselves than using a gun.

This is like blaming spoons for being obese. :banghead:

Also, I think more kids drown in family owned swimming pools than accidentally shoot another child with the family gun.
Just my 2 cents worth and you can keep the change.
Rod van Pelt

Yeah, you guys can stick the "stupid liberal can't understand logic" lines where the sun doesn't shine. I'm a registered Democrat, a bleeding-heart liberal and only dropped my NRA membership after they endorsed an AWB-signing governor for president (who would have flip-flopped again if an AWB came up). I'm a CCW, a target shooter, a Class 3 C&R FFL, a hunter and a friend of gun shop owners (who like me because I buy stuff). All this kind of talk does is make people like me (or who could be like me) write you off.

This is what I posted on Facebook last night:
"Thank you, Bob Costas, for instead of talking about the danger of depression or the connection between traumatic brain injuries and suicide (like a ****load of other NFL players in recent years), you go call for gun control for someone who, under absolutely any current law in ANY state (and most foreign countries, BTW), could have gotten a firearm. It can't be depression, or horrible safety standards, or lack of care, but the gun which did it.

Jovan Belcher couldn't have pummeled his girlfriend to death (it's not like he was 6'2", 225 pounds of all muscle and a pro linebacker or anything) or stabbed her, or run her over with a car, but ONLY shot her. He couldn't have driven into a bridge abutment at 100 mph, or jumped off the upper deck at Arrowhead Stadium, but ONLY have shot himself.

Several members of my family have committed suicide. Most by gun back through the years. Guess what? It wasn't the gun that did it. It was them.

Go **** yourself, Costas."

IMHO, this isn't a "gun" tragedy (whatever the heck that is supposed to be). It's a lot of things, but not a "gun" tragedy.

The propaganda put out by the anti's should not surprise us! They will repeat it over &over again just as they have been taught. They know the value of these lies! As they know they are in a war to tke our guns & freedom. This go's higher than just NBC! This is going to take place any &every chance they get! That is why we must counter it with the truth &let them know we will repeat the truth again &again each &every chance we get! Use their own mistakes to tell people the truth. Bob's rant on TV is a good place to start! Just a thought.

Wow, I'm glad I don't watch pro sports, so I don't have to watch people abuse their power like this.

I would be interested in knowing stats of other methods of suicide here in the U.S. I would bet more people overdose on drugs, or hang themselves than using a gun.

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Google it. The info is out there.

Firearms are the most often used method in successful suicides. However, plenty of people hang themselves, close the garage with the car running, overdose, jump off bridges, etc.

I suspect the reason most choose firearms is the instantaneous finality of it. With many methods, you have time to change your mind after starting the act (though you may suffer permanent damage from it). With a firearm, you need only a split second of the conviction to get the job done, and there's no turning back. There are very few "attempted" firearm suicides.

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Shame on you Bob Costas! I thought you were smarter than this.

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I don't blame Bob for his comments. I blame his microphone... :banghead:

Here is what I sent to them today "Mr Costas assertion that there would have been no Murder/Suicide in Kansas City is poppycock. If Mr. Belcher’s intent was to kill his girlfriend and then take his own life, there are dozens of methods that he could have used, had he not had a firearm. As a matter of fact, the wider distribution of guns in the hands of law abiding citizens has paralleled the reduction in violent crime and has been studied by a number of public policy and public health experts. Many of the studies in the field have hypothesized that More Guns mean Less Crime and improved self protection by American citizens.

Please stick to the facts in subjects that Mr. Costas and NBC Sports have no knowledge in.

Lets just ignore the fact the guy had a alcohol problem...


fu bob and fu NBC


yes mad

That is a good one, DammitBoy...lol Suppose Bob will agree??
Shouldn't he also say the same about the automobile that kills over 30,000 people per yr. in the U.S.???:banghead:
Rod van Pelt

Nice one dammitboy!

I don't blame Bob for his comments. I blame his microphone...

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But the microphone is just a tool he used to do something we consider abhorrent. We should blame the conscious decision of the user instead of the tool.

Oh wait...I see what you did there...

Things to consider:

1 - NBC and the NFL must have supported Bob, or he'd have been cut off immediately. If he were naked how long would he have been on the air? NBC and the NFL back him 100%. Don't stop watching Bob, stsop watching NBC and the NFL. Stop buying their products.

2 - In the begining of the 2012 season, the NFL commissioner publicly stated he had two goals:

A) - Reduce DUIs among NFL players

B) - Reduce domestic violence among NFL players and their families.

Now why would these be his goals, unless both statistics were well above the national average???