Mass shootings / Psychiatric Drugs

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A very interesting primer article on the discussion :

http://www.forbes.com/sites/lawrenc...the-common-denominator-in-murderous-violence/

"The Journal of Forensic Science, has shown, among other things, that: certain drugs can induce mania (a psychosis which can produce bizarre, grandiose and highly elaborated destructive plans, including mass murder);. . .and certain drugs can produce an acute psychotic reaction in an individual not previously psychotic."

Not a new premise, but worthy ammunition in the debate that the shooter, not the gun, is at fault.
 
Well it's a good read. I think this chap may have gone a little "tin foil hat" the other way in terms of the strident language he uses...can anybody say Tom Cruise?

But what he does point out is that mental illness is at the core of these incidents. I think we must understand that depression (the thing he cites as never before having caused mass murder) is often a secondary symptom to other mental disease processes. People who hear voices are not real pleased with it...for example.

So while there is very clearly supports our point of view, and does not call for people on these drugs to be "registered" and denied access to firearms, he's got a pretty extreme conspiracy-based argument here that, at the end of the day, won't be helpful. I'm not sure the guy is wrong but I doubt that he's 100% correct either.

I'm no fan of big pharma. And, yes, I am pretty sure they cover up all kinds of stuff, they bribe doctors with all kinds of stuff...and all that. But conspiracy theories are not very helpful.

It is good to know not everybody that can get an article published is against us though.
 
SSRI's are the devil. Why they are pushed for everything under the sun both on and off-label i'll never understand. The violence created by beginning, sustaining, and ending their treatment is documented for miles. This will never be explored as part of the "debate" since it's too lucrative.
 
"can induce mania (a psychosis"

No, mania is not a psychosis. There are severe forms of mania that include psychotic features, but it is not accurate to say that mania is a psychosis. They should know better; or at least should have looked at the wikipedia entry or something.

Many people have psychotic reactions to this that and the other thing that they ingest, including many types of meds.

St. John's Wort being one that comes to mind that you can buy across the counter. Benadryl is another. The literature describes all sorts of bad reactions to all sorts of meds.

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They never release the drugs they are on. And they never come from a stable home with a Father.
 
Russ Jackson said:
They never release the drugs they are on. And they never come from a stable home with a Father.
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Demonstrably not true. Off the top of my head, the columbine shooters And Virginia Tech shooter came from stable, religious two-parent homes.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk. Hence all the misspellings and goofy word choices.
 
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