Rem Golden Sabre ammo

We issued it in 9, 40 and 45 at the police dpeartment I retired from. In several shootings it performed well. I currently carry it in my Sig P290.

Golden Sabres and Speer Gold Dots are generally considered some of the best all around SD ammo out there. Opinions will always vary of course... but you can't get much better ammo for the money out there.

It's a well tested round and you can find test data all over the internet.

I buy self defense ammunition about every five years and the Remington Golden Saber is my first choice for 9mm, 40 and 45ACP. This is based on all sorts of test I've read, and it's likely to work as well as most other fodder. Shot placement is king and there's no substitute for training.

i like it behind Federal HST, quality ammo though

Golden Saber is my first choice in SD ammo for all pistol cartridges, save for .45 Super, which gets 240 Gr. Sierra JHCs. I use them in .380, 9x19mm, 9x23mm, .38 Spl. .357 Magnum, .40 S&W, 10mm and .45 ACP.

Do not equate the premium Golden Saber with the Economy "Golden Bullet" rimfire stuff.

It's considered a slightly older though still quite viable round. I wouldn't compare Rem's (or any other big manufacturer's) defensive ammo offerings with their plinking stuff.

You're good to go...

GS is fantastic.

The brass jacketed bullet helps with reliable feeding in addition to helping keep the bullet intact during flight & upon impact in a target. These are are important things to consider for any SD ammo.

Remington's Golden Saber bullet was designed by the same person who designed Winchester's famous Black Talon. He knew what he was doing both times. I have GS ammunition loaded in a number of firearms including my CC pistol and others.

Hunter991 said:

I never buy Remington ammo because of how junk their 22 LR is

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The "new & improved" GB stuff is far from junk.

Hunter991 said:

I never buy Remington ammo because of how junk their 22 LR is.

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1858 said:

The "new & improved" GB stuff is far from junk.

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I would agree with that. I would also disagree that the older stuff is junk. I posted some targets awhile back. The GB performed better than most.

I've got two ten round mags loaded with 230 grain GS right now.

In .45acp, I choose Federal first if it's available, then Remington. Other stuff is only if Remington is also out of stock.

Years ago when it was cheap I picked up several thousand of these for the .45. They reloaded easily.

Dam near worth their weight in gold now.

Still have a real box of 9mm Black Talons.

I carried it (.45 ACP) for years in my Sig P220 & 1911s. Most accurate round I found for either.

I prefer Golden Sabers in my 9mms. But I generally like the 147 grain variety.

I like Golden Sabers because the tests I've seen (on-line) seem to indicate they would work well if needed, but the main reason is because their design allows for feeding reliability. They come close to the ogive profile of ball ammo, which I like.

Plus, you can sometimes find them on-line for really good prices - around $14.95 for 25 rds IIRC.

Its not what I prefer but its good stuff.

On a side note...

I reload a few calibers. On a whim I measured the bullet at the case mouth and discovered it is .347. Most bullets are .355, so I did some asking around and found out the actual bearing surface is the last 1/4 of it's length.

Unusual design.

124 grain GS are the most accurate I've tried out of my Kimber Solo.

Excellent SD round. However, myself that would be my
Third choice, first would be Corbon 125 grn +P then
Speer GD 124 grn +P. Anyways you get what you can
Get in these times, let's hope it does'nt get any worse.

Semper Fi

I think the Remington Golden Saber bullet is an excellent design, probably just as good as the Gold Dot. I don't like Remington brass construction, it's thinner than most of the other brands. If you use Remington ammo watch VERY closely for bullets setting back. Don't rechamber the same round repeatedly. It seems as if all of the manufacturers are having set back problems now but Remington has always had this problem. If you handload you can solve this problem easily.

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On a side note...

I reload a few calibers. On a whim I measured the bullet at the case mouth and discovered it is .347. Most bullets are .355, so I did some asking around and found out the actual bearing surface is the last 1/4 of it's length.

Unusual design.

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Like another poster stated, a few years ago I bought several thousand; since then prices have tripled.

The thing I noticed right off was their design, the bottom of the bullet's body is actually a driving band of sorts being of a very slightly greater diameter than the upper part of the body. It's even listed in the Remington literature as a design feature affording the bullet certain ballistic advantages. I have no idea if that's true, but 9mm, 10mm/40 and 45ACP are extremely accurate in all my guns.

The odd thing I discovered was I couldn't successfully load the 40 cal into ANY Remington case I had. Even those that originally were loaded with the Golden Saber bullet. I could never get a taper crimp to hold the bullet; maybe my die ... dunno. I switched to Federal and/or Starline cases and problem was solved. And since I had a huge supply of Federal 40 cal and Starline 10mm brass I was satisfied ... I seldom argue with success.

You can see the driving band in the attached picture.

It's good stuff.

The thing I noticed right off was their design, the bottom of the bullet's body is actually a driving band of sorts being of a very slightly greater diameter than the upper part of the body. It's even listed in the Remington literature as a design feature affording the bullet certain ballistic advantages. I have no idea if that's true, but 9mm, 10mm/40 and 45ACP are extremely accurate in all my guns.

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Less bearing surface = less friction. I've found Golden Sabres to run 20-50 FPS faster than other bullets of equal weight with any given powder & charge.