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And that's the reality that several Sturdy fans refuse to accept. Here's pretty much how every argument in favor of the Sturdy's fire-liner goes: "Sturdy's "Amazing Fire Insulator" is the greatest because these other things ___________ (insert unrelated non-fire safe applications and uses) use...

Don't remember the exact temperature max, I think it was 1550. It's an Amsec and the info for it is in the thread I linked. Here's the quote: "The listing was actually a dual listing, tested at Omega Point Labs and at UL in 2001 to prove it to be legitimate, both tests using the same UL72...

The opinion and experience of Fort Knox Gun Safes and Liberty Gun Safes engineering guys is not equivalent to the Amsec engineer's experience. The guy who helped write UL fire and burglary testing standards, designer of the first retrofittable electronic safe lock, the first US made TL-15 and...

Yes, the Rockola guy (an engineer for Alcoa but with no actual experience in the subject matter he's arguing about: fire testing, fire-resistant safe design, thermodynamics and real world fire safe performance) is very much in love with Sturdy and has been going on for years about it on...

Wow, this is a first. Are we talking about the same UL with over 100 years of fire testing hundreds of thousands of products including safes and vaults? The same UL with the most comprehensive fire testing facilities in the world? The same UL that tests and certifies virtually all safes and...

The Graffunder F series is not equivalent to a TLTR safe. It does not come with manganese steel in the body, only the door. So 1" of mild steel in the body + the vermiculite mix and inner liner is what you get. You can add manganese steel to the body but this is a custom option and very...