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    FFL's required to train employees?

    Common sense would dictate that they should, but that's not the question. Must an FFL (gun shop/pawn shop, etc.) train their employees in the proper care, handling, clearing procedures, display, etc., concerning firearms that might be found for sale in the place of business? Example: An...
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    Good info Jim. Thanks.
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    Thanks. A safe queen that'll still see a little daylight from time to time.
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    Makes perfect sense now. Thanks!
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    Thanks. That gun has won many a major trap competitions in the hands of my grandfather. Serial number dates it to 1953. He was winning with it in the late 50s and early 60s. Got a picture of him holding it somewhere from way back when.
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    Good info. I'm very conservative with my guns. Honestly never heard of 2 9/16" shells. Can they even be had? This gun is in no way marked. Any way to know for sure?
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    ....and off topic for the thread but thought you might appreciate another example of my hand me downs....I know there's some Model 12 fans. They are my family's favorite so I might have one or two.
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    The only markings on the action flats or barrel flats are the serial numbers - all matching of course. "PAT'D" is marked on the action flat on the right side and "112" on the action flat on the left side. That is it. Not sure whether or not it has been refinished. I do know this, I come from a...
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    Ithaca Flues Double Barrel 12 gauge

    Hoping someone can chime in with a little more info on this shotgun. I've found quite a bit of information on the internet but I simply don't know enough about these guns to narrow down the grade, etc. I love the old guns but it's just not my area of expertise. History of the gun: It was just...
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    Have you considered what "reasonable" means?

    To counter a couple of posts, whether or not the force applied is capable of overcoming the threat presented has actually come up in some cases. It enters in this manner. Consider it a jury instruction when they determine "reasonableness." Judge: "Would another person, facing the same or...
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    Have you considered what "reasonable" means?

    I didn't specify but let's suppose for a second that yes, there is a possibility (not necessarily a guarantee) that escape is possible. Is it now unreasonable, from a legal standpoint (not trying to talk tactics here), to fire if there is a possibility of escape no matter how small? We know...
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    Have you considered what "reasonable" means?

    It is. But the same liability that may be incurred by police can often be incurred by private citizens. Sometimes more so. It is most definitely up for discussion whether discharging a firearm at a vehicle is reasonable or not. Agreed, police policies are for police officers and not private...
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    Have you considered what "reasonable" means?

    A fact most often referenced by the courts concerns the "reasonable officer" or in the case of private citizens, "reasonable person" standard. That is, would a similarly trained person facing the same or similar circumstances act in the same or similar manner. It is difficult to believe that a...
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    Have you considered what "reasonable" means?

    It's reasonable to assume for the sake of this discussion that the obvious intent is to hurt/kill you. I'm not trying to come up with a detailed hypothetical. This is the case, which has been reflected in actual court cases: A person intent on doing you serious injury or death is driving a...
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    Have you considered what "reasonable" means?

    This is an argument and does not necessarily reflect my opinion. ------- In terms of lethal force it is not difficult to understand that the term "reasonable" implies that another person of sound mind and judgment would likewise feel the risk of death or serious physical injury existed at...
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