Aside from a kick like a mule there is nothing I've ever heard bad about the Remington 870.
The Makarov seems to be thought of pretty well.
Except for Magazine availability/cost I have NEVER heard a cross word about my Astra A-80.
This is a really wonderful subject.
All the serious discussions....
If the dogs don't keep the bad guys away, or the bad guys trip over said dogs, I still say 12g pump gun with in my case #4 BUCK.
I would not feel all that bad holding a 1911 however.
Would be rather awful to mess up my walls...
I shall ask to be flogged 1000 times with a wet noodle Wyld Cat!
A thousand pardons for saying "man"
I keep my hair WAY short too. No maintenance troubles that way!
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