National Basketball Association is airing anti Second Amendment PSAs

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It is my understanding that professional athletes get paid to defeat opponents; they don't get paid to be paradigms of morality.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/curry--cp3--melo--noah-call-for-end-to-gun-violence-in-new-nba-ad-165043760.html




MODERATOR NOTE: To clarify - This is a Bloomberg ad (Everytown affiliate produced it and Everytown paid for it), not an NBA add per se, but the NBA is a partner in the effort. Read the article linked and watch all the way to the end to verify what organization put the ad out. Be sure to express your displeasure with the stations and advertisers when the ad runs.
 
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Let's not forget, we're talking about games and a form of entertainment.

Former NBA player Charles Barkley said it so well, "I'm not a role model. Just because I dunk a basketball doesn't mean I should raise your kids."
 
Simple solution!. Boycott the NBA, and write letters to their sponsors telling them that you will no longer buy their products if they continue to sponsor such garbage!

Whadda ya expect? Basketball's a sissy game anyway!:p
 
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I didn't see that as anti-2A as much as anti-violence using a gun. Black-on-black violence is not talked about a lot but is prevalent in society. I see no harm in using superstars to bring this message. It's no different than the stop domestic violence ads we saw last year on the NFL games.
 
All of us are against gun violence. It is in our best interest to do what we can do to prevent guns from being used improperly. There was one brief line in the PSA that could be considered anti-2A and without knowing the full context of it before editing it may not have been.

Most of it was simply trying to prevent shootings, not much about gun ownership. Sometimes we are too easily offended.
 
Please note that Bloomberg's EFGS had a hand in this grotesquerie.
 
More like: Everytown USA recruited some NBA players to be in an ad and then paid to have it on TV.

The NBA doesn't air ads. The network that bought the rights to broadcast the game does.
 
The bottom line is that it they don't air without the N.B.A. consenting to the use of their multibillion-dollar brand and the prestige of its star athletes.
 
Larry, the exception is the focus on GUN violence. They want to air a PSA against violence no outcry. A ad against violence with one and only one weapon is a PSA against that weapon as much as against violence.
 
How else should we take it?

He, by the grace of God and talent, escaped from Chicago.

We have, and do have, some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. The state was forced to enact a CCW by federal decree. We were the last of 50 states!

Where he grew up, and where I grew up are worlds apart......and separated by a couple of decades. I didn't have friends killed in the street. I also didn't grow up in Chicago.

He escaped by his talent. To try to blame guns? Let's blame the fact that most of the "gun violence" perpetrated in Illinois is from the Chicago area. It is also from people that can't legally own or possess a firearm in the Communist State of Illinois.

Explain that one to a resident of Southern Illinois.
 
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All of us are against gun violence. It is in our best interest to do what we can do to prevent guns from being used improperly. There was one brief line in the PSA that could be considered anti-2A and without knowing the full context of it before editing it may not have been.

Most of it was simply trying to prevent shootings, not much about gun ownership. Sometimes we are too easily offended.
Well, yes and no. The spots made absolutely no references to any specific anti-RKBA notions with which to take exception. At the same time, there is absolutely no doubt that the spots were specifically designed to drive web traffic to Bloomberg's 'Every Town' anti-gun propaganda.

I don't think that I can call that a neutral-to-positive use of airtime.
 
If the ad said to ban guns to stop the violence then I'd agree it is propoganda.
It says to stop using guns for violence against your neighbor.
I believe we all want senseless violence to stop and we especially want violence committed with guns to stop. It benefits everybody, not just the anti-gun crowd. How much better would the anti-gun rhetoric be if man-on-man violence with guns came to an end or dramatically decreased.
 
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The real gist is: Guns are bad; more regulations and restrictions are good.

A dose of better, more responsible parenting would truly help fix the problem.

And the honest and correct label is criminal misuse of a firearm and not "gun violence"!
 
There is no such thing as "gun violence". Guns are inanimate objects.

There is however gang violence, and black on black crime. Normal gun owners have nothing to do with that, other than shooting the occasional gang banger in self-defense.

Spike Lee is more trouble than he's ever been worth. His movies do nothing but stir up trouble. He is involved with this PSA as is the ever whining Bulls player Noah.
 
Yet another reason to dislike the NBA. The players are such great role models, specially the ones that came from the ghettos. I haven't seen an NBA game on TV in over 10 years, never seenone at the arena. Will no be watching one any time soon.
 
The person behind the trigger creates the "violence". The gun is an inanimate tool, no better or no worse the human wielding it.

This is just more liberal anti 2A propaganda coming out of the mouth of players of a major American professional sport for the very first time in a ad campaign. 6 ads are set to run on Friday according to Fox News Channel.

But what else would you expect from the NBA and the Bloomberg group?
 
The real gist is: Guns are bad; more regulations and restrictions are good.

A dose of better, more responsible parenting would truly help fix the problem.

And the honest and correct label is criminal misuse of a firearm and not "gun violence"!
This is how I interpret it also. More regulations on legally obtained firearms.
 
The article, itself, does advocate stricter gun control laws but the purpose of this thread is mentioning how the NBA is preaching gun control which is not the case.

from the article:
While Everytown advocates for specific policy instruments like requiring more stringent background checks for gun sales and implementing more punitive gun trafficking laws, the Christmas Day spot doesn't address those prescriptions, choosing instead to focus on the human faces of gun violence,

So, the ads are asking the people to not shoot their brothers, which we can all agree with. I am not an NBA fan, btw.
 
The mere fact that this ad campaign is funded by Bloomberg makes it immediately suspect.

Language can be a powerful thing, shaping perceptions and framing the terms of debate. They didn't use the words "gun control" a single time because it is too politically charged term for regulation/restriction and conjures images of confiscation. Instead, they spoke over and over about "gun violence," or "stopping gun violence".

Be advised that no such term exists for other forms of "armed violence" such as "Knife Violence" or "Bludgeoning Instrument Violence".

The terminology is the latest effort by gun-control advocates to get rid of the term "gun control" in the same way advocates for the rights of illegal immigrants carefully refer to them as "undocumented workers". These terms amount to Orwellian attempts at culture-shaping and to claim otherwise betrays your lack of sophistication and worldliness.
 
How else should we take it?

He, by the grace of God and talent, escaped from Chicago.

We have, and do have, some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. The state was forced to enact a CCW by federal decree. We were the last of 50 states!

Where he grew up, and where I grew up are worlds apart......and separated by a couple of decades. I didn't have friends killed in the street. I also didn't grow up in Chicago.

He escaped by his talent. To try to blame guns? Let's blame the fact that most of the "gun violence" perpetrated in Illinois is from the Chicago area. It is also from people that can't legally own or possess a firearm in the Communist State of Illinois.

Explain that one to a resident of Southern Illinois.

No you weren't.

Go ask people who live in Hawaii if they can even get a permit to own a gun, much less carry one.

"May Issue" is often another way of saying "only the rich, famous, and politically corrup...err...connected may"
 
10 years ago we moved to a Chicago suburb with one of the better school districts in the state. With few exceptions, parents attend parent teacher conferences, they do homework with their kids every night, kids are involved in all kinds of sports or activities, our kids play with each other outside and violence between students is not tolerated. For the benefit of the Bloomberg Moms and other anti groups, we call this "Parenting", or the act of taking responsibility for the kids we brought into the world. A byproduct of this "Parenting" is that our kids generally don't shoot each other. I have a number of friends and family members who are teachers in school districts where the majority of parents give a rat's behind about their kids. These districts are primarily on Chicago's South and West sides, where most of the shootings we hear about take place. With no parental supervision or education, too many of these kids choose the wrong path and wind up in gangs or other criminal activities.

I'll make a deal with the Bloomberg Moms, Everytown USA and all these other anti groups. Have the parents in these areas take responsibility for their kids at the same level we do and see what happens to the number of shootings then. If there's no change, then come talk to me about my gun ownership. It's moronic to think that taking my guns away are going to change the path of a child when their parents take no interest in them, or worse abuse them. They need to fix the disease, not the symptoms.
 
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I'll make a deal with the Bloomberg Moms, Everytown USA and all these other anti groups. Have the parents in these areas take responsibility for their kids at the same level we do and see what happens to the number of shootings then. If there's no change, then come talk to me about my gun ownership. It's moronic to think that taking my guns away are going to change the path of a child when their parents take no interest in them, or worse abuse them. They need to fix the disease, not the symptoms.
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Excellent post, intelligent thoughts.
 
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