Sporterized Enfield MK1 No3 - Question

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josmund

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Hello All,

I bought this off the net. It's in pretty good shape with clean and strong rifling. The crown is a little messy but I'll hold judgement until I shoot. it.

I'm trying to piece together the history. It looks like a pretty fancy sporterization. The for-end is bedded with some type of color coded bedding compound.

One thing that has me puzzled is the strip of clean steel. It appears there's some blue like coating on the action and barrel but it's been stripped clean about where the sights would have been. Any ideas?

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Here is the Band Markings. I'll look up exactly what they mean unless anyone knows off hand:

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The action and barrel have matching serial numbers but its stamped with FTR. Is this some type of rebuild?

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Thanks
 
The band markings are a king's crown with the Latin initials for King George, GR. BSA Co is Birmingham Small Arms Company, 1918 is the year of manufacture. Sht LE is Short Lee Enfield, not to be confused with the Long Lee Enfield that the MkIII replaced. MkIII* indicates this rifle was the updated MkIII that lacked volley sights and the magazine cutoff.

The strip of clean barrel is where the rear sight was removed. Not sure what FTR stands for. Sad to see it was drilled and tapped. I love those old WWI No1 MkIII*s.

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It appears FTR means the rifle was, at some point, sent back to the factory for a total tear down, inspection and replacement of excessively worn parts. My Lithgow has a M 51 stamp just forward of the receiver on the left side of the barrel denoting it's rebuild.
 
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Thanks Robert.

It would have taken a month of research to learn what you have in your head. I originally bought the gun because it was sporterized and I could scope it. Now that I've researched the weapon, I respect and want an original.

I now see the sadness of destroying a piece of history. My education continues.

They are pretty cool and to think this has been around for nearly a hundred years adds to the mystique. The stories it could tell?
 
FTR = Factory Thorough Repair

Armory overhaul sometime in it's past. I would scope that sweetheart and have some fun shooting it.
 
The barrel is Australian---the seven-pointed stars with "A" inside them and "I", "II","III", etc. beneath, are Aussie inspector's marks.
The "28473" is in an Aussie font, but the serial number has been struck over another number on the receiver ring---can you read it at all?
The ground area containing "FTR" shows evidence of an earlier Australian inventory number and a line out from when it was cancelled. (This is too complicated to explain here.)
So, likely a rifle supplied to Australia by Britain as replacement for Lithgow rifles sent to the UK early in WW1 and lost.
Anything on the left side of the receiver ring? Barrel? Might be a two digit date on the barrel.
The rear sight base was silver soldered in place, which is why your barrel is a different color where the base used to be.
Here's one with intact marks---

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-----krinko
 
Thanks Krinko.

It has markings all over. I guess if I was 98 years old and fought in multiple conflicts ( potentially ) I'd have some wear on me as well.

Left Side of the Band

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Left Side of the barrel

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Top of the Barrel

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Back of the Receiver

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they will grow on you, these are the last six i bought eastbank.
 

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My Lee Enfield rifle's receiver has a FTR 1953 marking that was explained to me as meaning Factory Thorough Repair in 1953, just before being placed in military reserve and ultimately sold on the surplus market when no longer needed.

UPDT: I missed that DougW caught FTR in post #4 (but, then, that means FTR has been confirmed independently)
 
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Thanks Robert.

It would have taken a month of research to learn what you have in your head. I originally bought the gun because it was sporterized and I could scope it. Now that I've researched the weapon, I respect and want an original.

I now see the sadness of destroying a piece of history. My education continues.

They are pretty cool and to think this has been around for nearly a hundred years adds to the mystique. The stories it could tell?
Lots of openion on this sport versions of military rifles is part of there history embrace it. Pure military is also great
Guess I am on both sides of the fence
 
^There is a long, long tradition of civilian use of sporterized military Lee Enfields in Canada, Australia and the USA that is almost as fascinating to me as the military history.
 
... I now see the sadness of destroying a piece of history. ...
I have seen a few sporterized milsurps that are bordering on being true works of art.

Even with those rare examples, while I am marveling at the craftmanship I feel an underlying sense of sadness for the original rifle ... but that's just me. :)

I am not a real Purist, but I much prefer these old military rifles in their original configurations.

I still have 2 N°3s, 8 N°4s and 1 N°5 ... and a comfortable stockpile of both HXP and R1M3 ball ammo (and a LOT of old MkVII for plinking). Yes, I am a Fan of the Enfields ... and their histories.

I hope that you manage to get that fine old rifle scoped and have wonderful experiences using it! ;)
 
They are growing on me Eastbank. Love the history here. Looks like you have plenty to keep you busy.
 
here are a few more, i still have a few more to check over and clean up. eastbank.
 

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If you have trouble feeding ammo, sometimes it helps to have an auxiliary mag spring. Beware of the too loose safety as it won't stay in place--easy and cheap fix though. One last thing, wartime SMLE's often vary widely on boresize so don't be surprised if your bore is oversized. Flatbased fmj bullets work a bit better in that case or better yet cast to your bore's specifications and handload for maximum accuracy. Good luck, they are addicting.
 
yes, but it backfired and now they are hooked and i have become their dealer. they now crave milsurp rifles and i let them look and some times touch them. but with white gloves on. eastbank.
 
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