Midway USSR

while i agree with you Midway sucks overall, it does seem pretty sleazy for them to keep you money. They did keep my money for 6 months while they cleared up some mistakes on their end, but i did get my stuff. You may want to contact UPS about getting them to accept a mail delivery. I know UPS and USPS, and Fedex trade packages to whoever has the most economical region. As far as hiding names, ive worked in enough public jobs to know you can NEVER give last names, because people will will track employees down at home and slash tires, or start fires over a .50 cent argument at checkout. Tracking, is just because with millions of items of inventory, and millions more drop shipped, its just too hard not to track.

Honestly, all of that sounds pretty standard, to me. If their site or catalog doesn't offer the option of "pay with cash" or "pay via money order" then they probably don't take that form of tender and you made an incorrect assumption in sending them that.

Computers make handling electronic payments so very easy that they probably just don't have anything set up to accept your money order (or an envelope of cash for that matter), process that as paid, and go deposit it in the bank. What would be a 5 second press of a couple of buttons (if a person has to handle it at all!) will now be actual time spent dealing with pushing paper and depositing physical documents. That's time, which equals money paid to employees, which has been streamlined out of their system at every possible step so as to reduce costs and help keep competitive in today's consumer retail market.

Is it electronic "stalking" of your purchases? If you want to see it that way, sure. But there are HUGE benefits that most of society has decided far outweigh the dangers. So that's how it is and how it is going to be.
If you want to pay with cash for things, you still can, but it will probably require a bit of extra effort on your part. Like driving to your local dealer and if s/he doesn't have what you want, asking them to order it for you so you can pay for it with folding money. Cash money isn't quite like using doubloons or wampum just yet, but it's getting closer. Consider that trading in electronic currency reduces time, reduces errors, and results in less money lost and expended in transactions, and that all makes sense.

As far as giving last names? Uh....no way. Folks need to have some degree of buffer between their private lives and their work lives. Often, putting your full name out there is just an invitation for the more nefarious and inventive people to track you down and cause serious problems. You don't need anyone's full name (or even their real first name) to receive the full satisfaction Midway, Inc. is able to give you, so demanding or expecting that is not reasonable.

And the company telling you how they are going to proceed, and not giving you a say in how they do business? Well, that's capitalism. Nothing requires you to do business with them and nothing requires them to do business with you. And if they do decide to do business with you, nothing requires them to do it the way you want.
This isn't the USSR and you are not compelled -- in any conceivable way -- to operate within the Midway system. They aren't the government, telling you how you must live your life.




As for your money? Go rent a P.O. Box for a month and give them that address. They'll be happy to be rid of your money order which is as useless to them as if you'd sent a skin bag full of glass trade beads!

Best way to deal with electronic only issue is to get a prepaid visa card with a $500 value. That way if your card gets hacked. The max you could be out is $500.

I've dealt with Midway for decades. Since before online shopping was even dreamt of. As with all companies, sometimes things happen. Patients and cooperation usually solves any issues.

Why don't you have at least a debt card?
With the skum in this country today---a company would be crazy to give out peoples names.
Running around with cash to buy M O's is dangerous
business.
Stay safe in the future
I buy most of what I need from Midway---debt card

I have spent more than I should have with Midway over the past 10 years. I have always found them to be honest, honorable and above board. But, I always pay with credit card, like I do almost all purchases.

I have done business with Midway for quite a few years. For a while, I too used money orders to pay for things. A few years ago, after sending in my order, I got a message that they would process this order, but they were not going to accept money orders any more. It's their business, so they can run it how they see fit. It did not matter to me that they no longer accepted MO's.....other than my wife now knows exactly how much I spend!!!

I will continue to do business with them as I've never had a reason to complain. When checking out, it's up to the purchaser to review the order. If there was no option for MO's, then that's on the buyer.

I do more business with midway than i should and i respect their policies. They have always been 3 day shipping and reliable for me.

As a note, money orders and personal checks are a thing if the past. Even in rural america there are more and nore stores that will not accept a check even, get a sequred devit card with the bank you trust.

Wait a minute, you mean to tell me that UPS, the folks with the big brown truck will come out to your place but the United States Postal Service, the folks that deliver normal mail will not deliver mail to you? If they don't deliver to you, do you have a post office box? If none of the above, how do you receive and pay things like bill, license renewals for vehicles, or even junk mail? I live in very rural North Dakota and I can think of no place in this state that doesn't have rural postal service.

"...staff and supervisor hides their last names..." Totally normal when dealing with the public.
Midway says right on their site what methods of payment they accept. Electronic payments are far easier to deal with than a postal money order. Welcome to the 21st Century. snicker.
"...will not deliver mail to you..." Happens here too. They call it Community mailboxes. Big thing at the end of the street. Costs you $30 plus tax if you lose the key too. Mind you, there are places FedEx only goes once a week and charges more to do it.

I guess it would depend on if you see every change as a sinister development, or just the way things work best for most businesses and people. It was probably distasteful to many when checks and credit cards first came out and became common, instead of cash for everything, but mailing cash has potential for unexplained loss, and for theft by employees or robbery. Its somewhat of a protection to you to deal in a non-cash way when doing some things in person, by mail, or internet. I deal with cash some for small local stuff, but I'm more concerned about fraud than evil .gov or UN or whatever when using imaginary money online, so do little or no business directly by computer. I get the info I need from a website, then call and give them credit card info by phone. One less part of a chain that can be infiltrated, and my computer is old a flaky, so don't completely trust how secure it is. Nothing banking or business related, or important personal information is ever on it. Beyond that, I got over the .gov concerns, I think I'll be dead and gone if/or before that ever becomes a real thing as portrayed by films, books or internet conspiracy theorists. Think about how disorganized they are in so many ways, and you think they've got time to mess with little minnows like us that are hobbyists?

Youre worried about the payment method, but not that they have your address to ship the stuff to you? Do you own property? Rent and pay cash? On the street? Pay taxes? You need mail delivery for many of those things. Not trying to be snarky, just pointing out theres many ways you are somehow on somebodies radar. Your IP address is probably traceable being online here. I recall one goob that posted somewhere about something of questionable legality, out of curiosity, I looked around and he had personal indentifiable info out. I think IP stuff is simple to computer geeks.

Go back to the institution that you bought the money order from. If you have the receipt they will probably issue you a replacement money order you can cash yourself. Even without a receipt you may be able to get satisfaction and a replacement as long as the other money order has not ben cashed.

MountaineerWV said:

Hey..if you guys like the way things are changing, more power to you. Once again, I appreciate your responses, as I am very interested in how the public is responding to the new world that is coming about now.

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Not sure a lot of us LIKE it... it just is.

I had an experience recently with an online supplier of automotive cleaning products. When I couldn't get anywhere with the "staff" I asked to be connected with the CEO and I got the response that I was after. I think that you can do the same with Midway's CEO. I've done this before with several companies such as General Motors and Motorola wherein I've asked to be connected with the Presidents of these firms. With companies this size you'll never get the top man but you'll get satisfaction. Never stop at the customer service level but go to the top man! Works for me!

A popular past time in prison is altering USPS money orders.

I find it VERY hard to believe that there's a location in the US that UPS delivers to that USPS doesn't. About the only way for that to happen is for the customer to remove themself from delivery. Loose dogs, refusal to use a regulation mailbox, things like that.

You can always have your United States Postal Service money order mailed back to the same United States Postal Service office that you bought it at, and will need to cash it at to receive your Federal Reserve notes back.

The federal government of this country stopped printing money shortly after the Federal Reserve painted a Dallas street with the brains of President Kennedy.

The Cabela's in Wheeling will be more than happy to take your cash, and I bet the one in Charleston will also.

And let's not forget that the all seeing eye of the Evil PTB will know about your purchase no matter what because of the secret backdoor spy programs, that only a small number of us know about, have been infiltrated into the framework of all of the computers in the world so they track our every move.

I will probably get yelled at for feeding the trolls, but it is Thanksgiving day, and I am sitting at a truck stop in Elizabeth, Ky. eating too much bad Thanksgiving buffet food, and feelling board.

MountaineerWV said:

Like many others, I have lurked about this site for years. But I think it is finally time for me to speak up. I want you to know about my experience, and to tell me what you think of it and my concerns.

I have ordered from Midway USA in the past with no problems. Though it was years ago. I made an order recently, as I usually do..I went to their site, filled the shopping cart with $300 or so in items, then wrote them down and mailed in a USPS money order.

After hearing nothing for some time, I called them to check on the order. They told me that they had just received it and was sending my money back. They said that they only take electronic payments now. I do not receive US mail, only UPS in my location. This was in my letter about the order, but they ignored it and was going to send my money order back US Mail. When I talked to them, they told me that they will only send it US Mail and that I have to get a mail address if I want my money order back.

Also, their staff and supervisor hides their last names. This company told me about what they want, what their company policy is, etc, like a bunch of fascists. I told them that I could mail the cheapskates $7 so they could UPS my money order back, but they told me NO, they don't accept cash.

And so I ask you, does this sound American to you to reject United States money? Does it not sketch you out that these people are insisting on electronic recordkeeping of all of your firearm purchases? Do you like working with companies who say it is their way or the highway, and that hide the last names of their employees? I say that it is UnAmerican to reject American money and require electronic stalking for firearm purchases. I say that there is something fishy afoot when a company rejects a $300 order, despite having US money in their hand, because the great eyeball can't put a strong enough bead on it. But I want to hear your opinions. Am I paranoid, or has this become the USSR??

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I have ordered from Midway several times and have been very satisfied with their service.

Sam1911 said:

othing requires you to do business with them and nothing requires them to do business with you. And if they do decide to do business with you, nothing requires them to do it the way you want.
This isn't the USSR and you are not compelled -- in any conceivable way -- to operate within the Midway system. They aren't the government, telling you how you must live your life.

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I see you have no problem using the internet (you are here) and you must have an email address (to register here) and obviously you own some form of a computer (to post here) so I don't understand why you can accept some forms of progress and not others? Communism, Fascism or tyranny it is not. It's called progress.

MountaineerWV said:

Hey..if you guys like the way things are changing, more power to you. Once again, I appreciate your responses, as I am very interested in how the public is responding to the new world that is coming about now.

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Not sure I follow your absolute disdain for technological progress made in the last 15 years. It's not the great eyeball, or the USSR, and it's not necessarily time for you to be put out to pasture and sent to the glue factory.

If you presumptively sent a company a form of payment that they don't say they accept, your mistake. There are ways of simply getting your money back, and then you can get a Visa gift card for whatever you want online without hassle or "big brother" concerns.

If you don't like things changing at all, then I guess you can be as resistant to it as you like, but things aren't getting any better for you anytime soon, I'm afraid.

I make orders sometimes twice a week from midway and they have always done right by me. Ordering online and paying online .

mountaineerwv

are you on another site under the username hillbillyinohio? you sure seems like the same person.