Can't decide on new rifle....Help

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I have decided to buy a couple of new rifles. I am a deer hunter who has always lived in a shotgun state, and recently our laws have changed. I have a Remington 770 in a 300 win mag, but hate the action, and am just sick of the cheap gun altogether. It's not worth selling, so I'm going to keep it, but I've decided to buy a Winchester Model 70 in a 270win with a wooden stock. It's a classic rifle, and something I can pass down. Putting a VX2 4-12x40 LR, and getting Leopold's CDS on it, because why not. So, I'm pretty confident in this decision. But, I don't want to take this out in the weather, and scratch it up in the brush, so I'm also buying a synthetic stock rifle also. I think it's going to be the weatherby weathermark, because it seems to just fit the bill: accurate, economic, and well constructed for inclement weather. My issue is that I keep changing my idea of what caliber to buy. I started thinking of buying another 300 win mag, but that seems dumb. So then I thought maybe I'd buy the something smaller. I'm considering the 257wby, but I've then read about the 6.5 creedmore. I plan on elk hunting some(very rare), and would also like for this to be able to take an elk (however not its primary role). I've deer hunted my whole life, and am a better shot now than I ever have been, so as long as the bullet can do the job, I'm confident in my abilities. I don't reload, and don't care about the price of ammo, because I'm not a weekend shooter, I'm a hunter. I just want something that I can hunt Indiana deer, and Colorado elk with, and not be undersized, but maybe fill the gap around what I already have: 270 and 300 win mag. I'm looking for flat shooting and solid performing, with killing knock down power, even if in a smaller caliber. This will be my go to gun. I need it to kill at a short distance (25yds) as well as long distances (up to 400 yds). I don't have an issue with the 300 win mag recoil, really, but I know I'd be more accurate with less recoil. Please Advise.
 
Welcome to THR. You have a good plan so don't let us talk you out of it. It seems to me that everyone these days wants the ultimate something or other. Your 270 will do fine. The only drawback is the 270 may have less choice in factory ammo since you don't reload. But I bet you can find something that will work in it. People have killed a lot of deer and elk with less powerful cartridges. Shoot different ammo until you find what works for you and go huntin!
 
I'm getting the M70 in a 270 because of the great deal I found in that particular gun. I want it to stay looking nice, and stay out of the weather. My question is more of what to get in the Weatherby Weatherguard. It will be my everyday gun. I hunt from October to January. Bow, Rifle, and muzzleloader. The Weatherby will be in some pretty crappy conditions, and why I'm buying a second gun. 6.5? 257wby? 7mm-08? 7mm rem mag? 25-06? I'm torn...
 
If you like Winchester M70s, add to that M70 Sporter .270 Win, an M70 Extreme Weather in .30-06 Sprg. Forget the magnums. They are overrated

Re that .270 Win, buy some Hornady SuperFormance, 130 grain GMX. They are designed to expand, but designed to fully penetrate game from any angle! I have used them. They work! Also, try the SuperFormance SSTs. Re the .30-06, check the 165 grain GMXs and SSTs. They are awesome!

Welcome to THR!

Geno
 
Yeah; forgot to add the 30-06; another consideration I've had. Cheap ammo, and performs well. Not as flat as some others mentioned though
 
A max handload .30-06, 165 grain projectile can be driven at 3,150 FPS. That is only about 80 FPS behind a 165 grain .300 Win Mag. I believe the powder used is IMR 4350. The trajectories are nearly identical to 500 yards, less than 1 inch difference.

Geno
 
I am a big fan of the 270. I think it really strikes the balance of flat shooting and power with comfortable recoil. Even teenage kids will be comfortable shooting it should you have any kids or nephews that ever get into hunting.
 
Oh and when you are shopping for scopes keep an eye on the field of view at low power. I have found it to be very important when woods hunting. I have two leupold 3-9x40 vx1's I bought this year and am very impressed with the field of view.
 
I have a 7 year old boy, who I'll pass the M70 270win to, so I just want to keep it nice. The 300 win mag is, believe it or not, really accurate even though it is a cheap 770; I just thought maybe a lower recoil, high velocity round that I could have as an everyday gun may be a little more pleasurable to shoot, and therefore I may be a little more accurate shooting. Keep in mind, I've never lost a deer with this gun. I just don't like the gun. The action is horrible. Adding a 30-06 isn't a bad idea, just very similiar to the 270 and 300 win mag
 
If you know the trajectory, and you laser the distance when out beyond 300 yards, there's little advantage to magnum cartridges over "regular" cartridges. '06 works as well as any super-zapper, to 500 yards, anyhow. :)
 
243 Win., 300 Weatherby Magnum 26" barrel. Next larger is 375 H&H , smallest allowed in some parts of Africa . Covers most hunting situations.
 
As for rifles, don't forget to check out the Savage, T/C, Winchester, and Browning rifles that have steep rebates as of August 2017. You can get a Winchester XPR that will have the same trigger as your fancy rifle (Winchester MOA trigger) for a fraction of the price. Some online sales mean you can get a gun for almost $200-300 after the rebates.

As far as caliber, you'll drive yourself nuts digging. As a 30-06 guy, I'd say you don't need one if you have the 300 win mag. I'd go smaller and faster for those long Indiana farm shots. I like the long action, so 270 and 25-06 would be my choice as it can double as a varmint gun for coyotes.

For a short action, 6.5 creedmoor is cool, but it is still new but I'd say it will stick around for a while. 243 isnt bad, but I'd probably go with a heavier round for deer "just in case". I would also look at 7mm-08 and 260 rem.

If I were you, I'd go Winchester XPR with a rebate to match your Model 70, and go either 25-06 or 6.5 creedmoor. You have the .30 cal already, and anything smaller isn't the "best" for deer.
 
Thanks JeeperCreeper. I was kinda leaning towards the 257wby or 7mm-08. I like the weatherby weatherguard because of that ceramic finish that seems like it could take anything weather wise. I really haven't seen many posts about them though. Im lucky enough to have a 400 acre farm, half tilled, and the other deep woods with a river running thought it to hunt. I have 1 field a mile long. Thats big in southern Indiana. The woods are thick, and then I have the long fields. I'm just torn. I know the 270 will work great. Ill hunt with it some, just not in crappy weather and in the brush. But I'm looking for an in between, in some way.
 
Thanks JeeperCreeper. I was kinda leaning towards the 257wby or 7mm-08. I like the weatherby weatherguard because of that ceramic finish that seems like it could take anything weather wise. I really haven't seen many posts about them though. Im lucky enough to have a 400 acre farm, half tilled, and the other deep woods with a river running thought it to hunt. I have 1 field a mile long. Thats big in southern Indiana. The woods are thick, and then I have the long fields. I'm just torn. I know the 270 will work great. Ill hunt with it some, just not in crappy weather and in the brush. But I'm looking for an in between, in some way.

I wish I woulda known that when I was living in Indy last year!!!!!! AHAHAHAHA

I know people love the weatherby cartridges, and that they are world class, but as a non-reloader, I like to know I can get ammo at Walmart if I dont wanna wait for an online delivery.

As far as 257 and 7mm-08 for elk, I believe Ron Spomer has an article or video on the 7mm-08 in the high country. I'll see if I can find it. I personally would prefer something bigger... that's what your 300win is for.
 
I buy 2 boxes of ammo per year per gun, and its all online, so I don't care about the availability at wallyworld. I have come to really love Nosler and Barnes...and will pay for them. Unfortunately I bought a new 12ga semi auto, and then bought a cantilever barrel, the year before we became a rifle state. I just hate the recoil, and am sick of being a 200 yard and under hunter... however I still haven't shot past 250 yards with my rifle. There's nothing wrong with the slug gun. Ive killed a ton with multiple different gauges. But I'm exited to be able to use more accurate, less recoil cartridges, and just want to choose wisely.
 
I buy 2 boxes of ammo per year per gun...[snip]... however I still haven't shot past 250 yards with my rifle...

If you wanna take far shots, I'd buy a couple more boxes and practice. I always thought I was a good shot until I tried to reach out past 300-400 yards with my hunting rifle. Especially since it's tough in PA to find a non-hilly place to try it.
 
Scopes can be calibrated, lines added in the scope, out to a very long distance.
To make a clean kill, some use a 300 Remington Ultra magnum.

Not needed if game is a lot closer.

Hunting elk with bow and arrow is done.
I really like the idea of Leupold cds dial. I think that will work for that. I'm most looking for a caliber that can cleanly take an elk, shoot flat, and has the best combo of low recoil and knock down power. I'll probably just buy another Leupold scope for this Weatherby Weatherguard as well. Any ideas for caliber?... Remembering I have a 270 and 300win mag already.
 
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